[Arlla]

Thanks very much to everyone who showed interest. 🙂 Unless I’ve PMed you before now to tell you you’ve been outbid, if you had the high offer on something you’ve won it. I’ll PM everyone about their picks tomorrow evening. Thanks!!

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Griffinlover wrote:

Hey Arlla what time zone are you using for the cut off?

Oh hey, that would be useful for you guys to know, huh? >_< I'm on Pacific time.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

siberakh1 wrote:

Oh, I wish I could put an offer on your Rainbow Lap, but I wasn’t going to get one until next month, or the very end of this one. Blah. Looks like you’re having some very good luck on just about everything else though. 😀 Hurray!

Oh, someone’s going to be one happy camper with that Labradorite Griffy!

Well, if you still want her next month, I’ll probably still have her! I got her in the move rush from the factory – I was supposed to get a silver lap and a rainbow lap, and instead I endded up with two rainbow laps… one of them in a box labeled Silver lap! And now of course the silver laps are gone so I couldn’t correct the mistake. Alas!

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Just wanted to remind everyone who’s interested that I’ll be taking offers until midnight on Saturday, April 4th.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

skigod377 wrote:

I’d like your old green curl. I’ll pay $90+shipping.

Okay – I’ll update that! 🙂

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Thanks for all the luck guys 😉 I just regret needing money now when no one else has it to spend! XD

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Aww, sorry Jen! I know how it feels ;P

BTW, everything is mint with boxes… oh, except the ruby sun dragon. But he, like everything else, will be well packed.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Thanks, Jen – then unless you object, John, I’ll work on them in between official pieces… and when they’re done, that’ll be that.

I’ve had a lot of family issues since I’ve gotten back, and the tearing apart/relocation of my work space, but things are looking to settle down a bit at last and I’m going to do my best to work with a vengence from here on out – if you want to start on those snow leopard griffins, I should have the mother griffin done soon and on her way to you, hopefully with a few other things.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

I’ve got 6 unfinished commissions on my list. 2 of those are a bit more committed than the others because the people sent me PYOs of their own for me to paint, so if I said no to those I’d either have to buy the PYO off them or send it back and reimburse their shipping.

I know Jen is gone for the weekend, but I’m very open to hearing how she feels about it.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Thanks everyone. 😉 And sorry, Tyrrlin!! XD

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Alright, selling a few pieces
I’ve reconsidered taking time payments – So long as I can get the balance within 30 days, I’ll take payments. 🙂

I love this guy, I really do. He’s one of my most special pieces. There’s a whole pile of reasons he’s going up for sale that I won’t take the time to list. 😉 I’ll miss him!!!
He’s the Labradorite Male Griffin, #2 (Melody owns #1)

Current bid – $2100

Also for sale:

Green curlie (this is the old green, not emerald) – current offer – $95

Pink Curlie (light version) – current offer – $60

Pink Curlie (darker version) – current offer – $60

Ruby Scratcher – current offer – $140

Rainbow Lap Dragon – $200

Ruby Sun Dragon – current offer – $150

Rainbow Emperor Dragon – current offer – $300

I’ll be taking offers for a week until the 4th of April

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Sounds fun to me! 🙂 Though I would probably only have something to contribute once in a while.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

John wrote:

Arlla wrote:

So long as you aren’t, I’m not! I’m just curious to see how things play out. I hope we can keep getting amazing prices like that! I think the only thing that still might concern me is how we do official PYOs in the future.

I guess the only thing I still need to know is the above – what do I do about my current commissions?? Do I finish up what I have left, or do I explain the situation to them and appologize? If I am allowed to finish the ones I’ve already taken on, I can spread them out inbetween official pieces.

Do you really want to finish them?

Well… Yes! I’ve said I’d do something for these people and I’d like to follow through. …plus, I have a bunch of paid for unpainted PYOs for the purpose. The tiger people I don’t mind blowing off so much because I must have told them all about a hundred times that they just may never happen. But these other person commissions, yes, if I’m allowed, I’d like to finish them.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Jennifer wrote:

Helen, I just wanted to mention that keeperoftheflocks used not only “PYO” but also “Magic Invisible Paint” (when displaying images of the same holographic flake paint as Windstone uses). Maybe it was both terms, when combined with production made sculpture, that was a problem? I am not fully sure how that sort of thing works, legally.

Yeah, the magic paint thing was definitely more into the realm of rude, since I’ve never heard that anywhere but Windstone auctions. But had anyone told her that it was actually really inappropriate to use that term? Does Windstone actually carry the copyright on it?

Jennifer wrote:

I do not mind if Windstone appoints more/new mods. Not at all.
Just remember though that in a way they do represent you as a company. (I’m sure you know this all too well!) I have always always tried to keep that in mind regarding my actions here. I hope that I’ve not disappointed! But if you select new mods, choose with care!

You’re the most amazing mod I’ve ever seen on any forum – I don’t know how you catch all the stuff that you do. And I don’t know how you keep your cool in some of those battles that you have to break up! 😉 Not sure any other mod would live up… but it might be nice to have extra help. But I agree, whoever you pick as a mod is going to end up sort of being one of the more visible representatives of the company, so don’t pick them lightly.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Arlla]

Jen will probably know more than me about 2Huberts, but haven’t they also been involved in certain squalls here on the forum? I can’t say I know much about them. Does this person have any experience moderating? Are they diplomatic when it comes to discussion on the forum?

I have to ask, John – what claim does Windstone actually have on the term “Paint Your Own?” Because you can do a google search on that phrase and get a whole lot of hits for paint your own pottery, paint your own guitars, etc. Have you actually filed for any kind of copyright or trademark on that phrase? Because it’s laying claim to things like that that’s going to help get people angry. Yes, your line of PYOs is associating the term with the company, but there have been paint your own sculptures loooong before Windstone’s. There was a store near my college that did a lot of paint your own bisque sculptures – and yes, they called them that. I think it’s pretty common, isn’t it?
Now, is it rude try and sell your own semi-mass produced sculptures on a sculpture company’s forum? Maybe. Is it rude to do that AND use terms that that company has been using? Probably. But at that point, do you legally have a right to say that they are your terms and no one elses? (I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know.) Keeproftheflocks may have commited a faux pas in selling her things on the forum, especially using those terms, but I really REALLY don’t think she would have done it if she thought it wasn’t allowed.

Quote:

Those terms were of course used by Keeperoftheflocks because she wanted to leverage our usage into a tool to sell her casts.

…While this may be true, in a way, I think you may be giving it a slightly more malicious slant than it actually has in reality. She sees a forum full of people crazy about Windstone’s paint your owns. She sees other paint your own ceramics/resins/sculptures out on the market. She sees multiple precedents on the forum for people selling their own sculptures, some of which I believe were also sold unpainted for people to paint. She has sculptures that she knows this fan base would probably be into and doesn’t see any one else getting reprimanded for advertising their stuff…. Honestly, John, try to take off the business glasses for just a second and look at it from her point of view – or at least from the point of view of the bystanders. Windstone does not look very much like the good guy here.

Quote:

The usual suspects were there in a heartbeat to stir thing up of course. So are they just clueless? Or what? I don’t know.

I think there are a lot more people upset here than ‘the usual suspects,’ though I know who you’re talking about. I think most people don’t want to get involved for fear of stepping on toes. But Koishikitty and Drag0nfeathers and the other noisy ones certainly represent the opinions of a great many other quieter people on the boards. I don’t think they’re clueless, I think they’ve been given mixed signals about what is appropriate and what is not. I should probably go back and reread the threads, but have there been any comments in favor of Windstone’s stance in this…? What I got from it was a lot of people saying that they understood but disagreed, or were nervous about being the next person to be accused of copyright infringement, or didn’t understand the intricacies of trade dress/copyright/etc. at all. As far as misuse of the forum — no, they aren’t being clueless. No rules against this were ever posted. Selling has been going on for a long long time. This course of action was straight out of the blue for a lot of people, and no they aren’t going to understand, especially since the reasons for it haven’t been publicly explained very well.

Obviously it’s pressing that the rules get figured out – and I like Jen leave that to the owners of the company – and that they get posted loudly and clearly so that futre misunderstandings don’t occur. But just as pressing at the moment, I think, is repairing the rift that’s being created between the company and this community of fans that’s developing because of this. You know how important the internet community is to this company – you know how important the forum has been to keeping the company alive. I think we need to do a little quick footwork here to try and make people feel a bit more welcome.

"He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
-J R R Tolkien

[Author]

Posts