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Don’t beat yourself up about it, if it comes to that decision, I’m sure that Danny will be happier that he can interact with his kitty.
Kyrin wrote:skigod377 wrote:I dont think its as traumatic as chopping off fingers or docking a tail/ears, but I do think you should give the alternative a try. If it does not work, then I say do what you feel you need to. I think Rusti said that there is alot worse that can happen than declawing a cat (Abandoning it, mistreating it, not vaccinating it, killing it…etc etc). Just make sure kitty is forever inside if you do it. Claws are pretty much their best defense and if you take that away, you need to make sure kitty is kept safe. If I was in your situation, I would either find kitty a new home if he was young, or I would declaw him.
(This message should be read imagining my voice tones to be gentle and calm statements of fact, not angry, a bit impassioned perhaps, but not angry.)
Actually, Ski, declawing IS taking off the first joint of the cat’s “fingers”. You can’t remove the claw making tissue without taking the bone it is attached to.
Sorry, but declawing is a cruel and inhumane thing, and those who think it doesn’t bother the cat haven’t been there when he wakes up from surgery, the vet usually keeps them overnight for a reason, owners don’t really want to face the pain caused their cats.
Typically the cat is okay as he wakes up, but the next day when fully alert they cry, lick their paws alot, shake the offending paws trying to get them to stop hurting and wince when attempting the litter box, even with shredded paper. It’s really sad to watch them, it is obvious they are hurting alot.
The vet I worked for hated doing declaws, but felt that versus homelessness for the cat it was sometimes a necessary evil, but he avocated against it.
Also, especially for older cats, often they stop using the litter box altogether in favor for soft cloth, usually any clothes you may leave on the floor. You can almost always be sure of some kind of abnormal behavior or some kind of disorder right after surgery. Alot of the folks who declawed came in later complaining about the failure to use the litter box after. They were warned.
Sure, after the surgery many cats recover and get over it, but it is still physically and emotionally hard on the cat, and some end up with permanent issues. So easy for people to casually chop off the defenses of a cat, but it isn’t that simple in reality.
Granted, in a younger cat the affects in behavior are not as pronounced, basically if you are going to declaw it should be done when they are very young before they learn dependancy on their claws for climbing, balance, etc.
(Now you guys know why I didn’t want to go into it.)
Also, in the case of PurpleDoggy’s cat, this is one of the cases where if the Soft Paws option does not work, then I support declawing him, however, I’d like that to be absolute last resort. And very few vets will ever agree to back feet too, and the reality is that if Danny is to avoid any risk of being scratched that would be the only solution.
I would opt for the Soft Paws and training, no more roughhousing with the cat with hands. Play with kitty with toys and discourage any clawing behavior with negativity, he will learn not to do it.
Getting off the soapbox. And sorry if I seem a bit harsh Ski, declawing is a big negative thing for me, so try not to take it personal, it isn’t meant to be, just your comment about it not being finger chopping is misinformed.
Kyrin
I have to agree with Kyrin on this, I worked for a vet for many years, and this was a horrifying surgery to attend. I can’t put it any better that she did, however I also agree with her that if Danny’s life is on the line, this should be done as a last resort, he is after all the most important in this situation, and while it’s not the cats fault, he would probably still scratch accidentally even if his fronts were removed. and also, you can’t do anything about the teeth. I’ve had even my most loving and adoring baby Emma nip me when she was hurt or afraid. I hope that you can find a solution for this. I’d also like to point out that when i had ovarian cancer, my immune system was toast because of the chemno, and nobody said anything about my cat. That was just my situation though, Best of Luck!!
PhoenixTears wrote:DragonMistress wrote:xanax is my saving grace at those times, thank the goddess my hb …
Wow. You and I have quite a few things in common!
I thought we might, there’s been more than one “that sounds familiar” moment.
I get anxiety attacks really bad myself because of the duragesic patch I have on for my pancreatitis. sometimes it gets so bad I start convulsing, xanax is my saving grace at those times, thank the goddess my hb is a fireman. what helps me with the anxiety is to visualize a big block letter 100 in my head an imagine myself filling it in with a tiny paintbrush. my mom taught me that when i was a kid, I’ve always been sick since i was little, and it’s helped alot as i’ve gotten older. that, and to shred a napkin into tiny pieces. I’vetaught my patients that at the hospital, and it really works. ::Clean hugs:::
I have tried this and it works… Fill up a big tupperware with water and half a lemon and orange. boil it in the microwave, or on the stove in a pot first, and place it NEXT TO the dragon in a closed room, Think bathroom tub, dragon on a towel, and close the door for a couple hours. seemed to zap the smell on three of my dragons. BUT DO NOT SUBMERGE THE DRAGON!! they are not good swimmers!!
I know that Deco art metallics champagne is a perfect match for the pearl dragons, maybe it would match the kirins too.
I wonder if it was a shill bid, noone seemed interested untill after we questioned him, and the winner changed Id’s recently, price went up pretty quick too. I wonder if it’ll get relisted.
Hi Maya! I have to say, I love your work, especially the candle lamps, and the “maternal” pieces, but I have to ask, are they supposed to be, anotomical? kind of a subliminal referance to the core of femininty similar to Georgia O’Keefe’s florals? or am I just seeing them from a diffrent perspective?
