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SPark wrote:
Though I tend to mostly use the Reaper miniatures paints. I don’t do mini painting much any more, so I might as well…
UGH that stuff is way overpriced. 😯 then again if you have it… might as well use it. 😀
I have some reaper minis painted!I should take pics of them! 😀 a couple of my characters… and a couple unicorns. 😀
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Though I like Golden and Liquitex etc… the other paints DO work just as well…
they might not be AS archival as expensive paints… but they serve their purpose. 😀
Heck… most of the acrylics I use in my horses are the cheepy stuff… I only use the good stuff on my horses… or if I only have the color I want in them. ^.^
granted… the more expensive the paint… the easier it is to work with too… I often find that the Creamcoat, Apple Barrel and other cheepy paints dry LIGHTNING fast… which can be VERy annoying. 😛
asinnamon wrote:So, they aren’t all acrylics? I only know about house paint…Ask me how to paint your bathroom, and I can tell you. There is gonna be a BIG learning curve here, I can see it already
No… you have acrylics… which are water based…
And oils… which require a LOT more cleanup than I’m willing to deal with… they are oil based…
And then water colors. 😀
Someone did a water color PYO…looked neat. 😀 I might try one one day!
But I’d stick with acrylics first off…
Go to Michael’s and get the craft paints… .89 a tube… they’ll get you started! 😀 then graduate to other, more expensive brands from tehre! 😀
CherylKaufman wrote:But we DON’T have a tutorial for pastels- only acrylics.
We will soon! 😀
And also… honestly… I always use a primer… just white spray paint from walmart though. nothing fancy…
Just gives the paint something to cling to… makes them more archival too…
I dunno… I always primer. ^.^
mimitrek wrote:Thanks again, that’s really interesting to know.
It sounds like the process is a lot of work though! How long did it take you to do your brown wolf?
No problem guys!
I’ll definately do a tutorial… I have one more wolf (that I got for Xmas) that I need to do… I’ll get her started and do one for you guys. ^.^
Actually… it CAN take forever… depending on how much detail… shading… etc… I put into it…
Drying time can be a factor… if it’s humid out. But I’m in Tucson, AZ… humid only occurs two or three months out of the year! 😆
Really it comes down to layers… if I wanted the wolf DEEP DARK brown… or black, then yes… it woudl take a LOOOONG time to build up to that color… ^.^
But I think this brown wolf… all told maybe took 10 hours… 😀 And I was working on the other two at the same time.
You have to get several projects working at once with pastels… so you aren’t just sitting there waiting for the sealer to dry. 😀
mimitrek wrote:One question though — you mentioned that you put acrylic paints on at the end. Do the pastels still manage to show through somehow?
I’ll take some detail pics tonight… Maybe I can kinda show it that way. ^.^ It all depends on how you do it..
Acrylics can be thinned… either by using water or clear acrylic medium. This makes them less opaque… In other words… you can slightly change the color beneath… this is called glazing… that’s really how good acrylic painters work on canvas (something I’ve really yet to masker. ^.^). They work similar to how I do pastels… in lots of layers of color building to a final color…
There are also acrylic paints that are naturally transparent… Burnt Umber and Ultramarine blue are two. 😀
Did you know that if you mix those specific colors together you can get a NICE cool black? 😀
CherylKaufman wrote:ANd how do you apply the wet medium on the dry chalk and NOT have the brushstrokes hurt the chalk dust design
You know… I’m thinking I should do a little tutorial. 😀 I’m doing one for a specific horse color on another forum… I could do a nice run down of how to do pastels on these guys if you want me to! 😀
Actually Cheryl… you CAN”T apply the wet medium (acrylics) over the dry one (pastels) until you seal the pastels in some manner. They acrylics will just pick the pastels right up… and ruin all the shading. 😀
The first picture of my wolf… this one…
This was the first layer of pastels.
Once I had the shading how I wanted it… I took her outside and sealed her with a clear acrylic sealer… Krylon etc…
As soon as that was dry… the pastels are locked in place… I can’t change them… all I can do is add more. Which I do… I go back over with the same color, or one slightly darker… and repeat the process of shading…
Then I take her outside and seal her again…
See the pattern? 😀
I think the brown wolf was… 7 layers of pastels… give or take. 😀 and that’s… Pastel… seal… pastel… seal. 😀
Then at the vary end… I painted the acrylics on. ^.^
My old Illustration teacher had a mantra that still sticks with me… “apply your mediums fat over lean…” Meaning… start with your transparent “lean” mediums like water color, ink, pastels etc… then add your opaque “fat” mediums last as needed… like acrylics, oils etc. ^.^
Acrylic paints are a wet medium… whereas pastels are a dry medium… Acrylics will dry given time… where as pastels will remain moveable/blendable unless you spray them with a fixative (on paper) or sealer (on models)
There are two types of Pastels… “Chalk” and “Oil” I don’t use Oil Pastels for this… they just don’t work right.
But Chalk pastels are like charcoal… or crayons… kinda. 😀 they come in sticks. I then crush these sticks into a dust…
Like here…
I then use brushes… to “dust” the horse or other critter with the different colors… from lightest to darkest… building up the colors as I go. 😀
So the wolf started out that nice almong/off white color… and I slowly worked up to the darker browns… finally painting on the acrylic paints at the end. ^.^
I hope that explains it! 😀
Greater Basilisk wrote:Those are really beautiful, lady. Your experience painting horses shows. I especially love the one with peacock accents.
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Thanks GB. 😀 I really appreciate it. 😀
With any luck the lighter grey wolf will have similar coloring… though with green instead of purple accents. 😀
I hope to have them done tonight or tomorrow… and the brown one possibily on ebay this weekend… we’ll see! 😀
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Oh DROOL! THIS is what my Ronald will look like one day… maybe a shade or two lighter…
http://www.equineresindirectory.com/showhorse.asp?horseid=5638
THAT is why I’m waiting to paint him… I want to be THAT good to do him justice! AHHH!
AWESOME! Go for it!
They are so much fun! Seriously! I doubt you could make a mess of one! 😀 I love the creative freedom they afford me! 😀 such a release!
😆 Yeah… I want Hellen to finish her draft too! he’s GORGEOUS! ^.^
Never cared for Haggis. Something about his stance just bugs me.
Crusher… he’s neat… but I much prefer Ronald’s mane and tail. ^.^
You know there are three though right?
Ronald…
http://www.equineresindirectory.com/showresin.asp?resinid=849
Crusher…
http://www.equineresindirectory.com/showresin.asp?resinid=601
and the War Horse from the Equine Collection…
http://modelhorsesalespages.com/sales/view_details.asp?Itemid=346865
Oh man Ronald is begging to be painted now… 😯 Not good….
skigod377 wrote:You paint better than me.
Naw Ski… we are painting in two different mediums. 😀 you use Acrylics right?
I’m using pastels… totally different effect! 😀 One’s not better than the other. ^.^
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Did you know she did another version of him?
She changed his mane and tail… but since he’s cheeper than the original resin… that could easily be changed. ^.^ And you could have something close to him. ^.^ I hardly EVER see Ronald for sale actually. 😯
AH HA! I like the person selling this guy… GREAT company… friendly to deal with. ^.^
http://modelhorsesalespages.com/sales/view_details.asp?Itemid=346865
Granted he has that crud beneath his hooves… but still. ^.^ it’s pretty much the same sculpture!
WOW… this one sold for $325! SCARY!
http://modelhorsesalespages.com/sales/view_details.asp?Itemid=354354
Alrighty… dark brown it is!
Here she is so far…
You can barely see it in the pics… but she has metallic green all down her wings… as well as bronze. I’ll take more (better) pics tonight… I just had to get one last night. 😀 She also has bronze running from the corners of her eyes… and a little bit of the green there too…
I can’t decide if her face needs another layer of darker pastels or not….
And then the sibling pair! ^.^ the darker one belongs to my friend… and the lighter one will most likely be a gift to my BF… since out of these three… she is his favorite.. and I’m ACTUALLY getting a reaction out of him when he sees her! 😆
Of course… neither of these two are done… but the dark one is close… I’m going to glaze on some dark blue over the dark grey on the back side of the wings… then add more of the interference blue… maybe a hint more purple…
You can barely see it… but that interference blue is all down the wings… and at the corners of the eyes as well…
They are coming along! I think the brown one is done… unless someone else sees somethign I should do to her. 😀
