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Very well said, PC!
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My art: featherdust.comAnd for the record, many substances that ARE safe have an MSDS. It’s a requirement for any chemical that is produced, or used in production (natural or not) to have an MSDS, even if it just says – ALL GOOD! It’s a cover your butt move. Heck, WATER has an MSDS.
Although, you think that’s bad, you should see the MSDS for salt. It’s fantastic.
“Precautions:
Keep locked up.. Do not ingest. Do not breathe dust. Avoid contact with eyes. Wear suitable protective clothing. If ingested,
seek medical advice immediately and show the container or the label. Keep away from incompatibles such as oxidizing
agents, acids” From http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927593But yes, again, natural usually does not mean safe. PC said it very well! But then again, neither does artificial. As always, research into the particular chemical being used, is ESSENTIAL.
(and I still love salt on my popcorn)
And for the record, many substances that ARE safe have an MSDS. It’s a requirement for any chemical that is produced, or used in production (natural or not) to have an MSDS, even if it just says – ALL GOOD! It’s a cover your butt move. Heck, WATER has an MSDS.
Although, you think that’s bad, you should see the MSDS for salt. It’s fantastic.
“Precautions:
Keep locked up.. Do not ingest. Do not breathe dust. Avoid contact with eyes. Wear suitable protective clothing. If ingested,
seek medical advice immediately and show the container or the label. Keep away from incompatibles such as oxidizing
agents, acids” From http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927593But yes, again, natural usually does not mean safe. PC said it very well! But then again, neither does artificial. As always, research into the particular chemical being used, is ESSENTIAL.
(and I still love salt on my popcorn)
Lol! That’s great, Dragon. Of course, it takes an oral dose (based on the rat LD50) of about just under half a pound for the average adult female and about 4 hours to kill off 1 of every 2 people foolish enough to eat that much at once!
That being said, it’s good to hear that others realize (and PC, you’re responsible enough to say it, even if it means that some of your products are not “all natural”) that natural does not equate to safe. People shouldn’t eat nightshade for a reason, though eating a relative, the potato or tomato, is fine! Well, at least parts of them are fine. It’s important to realize that the world around us is all chemistry. There are chemicals in your food…heck, your food IS chemicals, chemicals in the air we breathe (whether it’s smog or perfume), everything.
I’d go on a rant about “antibacterial”, too, but that would derail the thread too much.
Well, it’s way less entertaining if you bring the LD50 into it. Sheesh, you kill all my fun! *tsk tsk*
And yes, everything is chemistry! That’s why I’m a chem nerd I guess. It kinda applies to almost everything! Haha.
ANYHOO – since I just tried to hijack a marvelous thread about PC’s apothecary fun and awesomeness…. back to that!
I’d go on a rant about “antibacterial”, too, but that would derail the thread too much.
Ick. Antibacterial. Bad for everything.
For male scent names, I’d stick closer to the main ingredient and not try to be too creative. From my experience, men prefer descriptive and straightforward names. Not too sure about urban cowboy. I remember my ex complaining about perfume names: “What the hell is morning light supposed to smell like?! And what about evanescence?! If it smells like roses why don’t they just say so!!!” :bigsmile:
Meanwhile, of the scents currently available, which ones would you recommend for a young man (early 20s)?
I would agree that men prefer descriptive names for the scents, BUT do we know which sex would be making the selections? A male might want “Sandalwood”, but if his Significant Female is shopping on the site, “Indian Nights” (or something) could still be a better name because it would appeal to her.
I have a bath gel that is amber and musk that smells fabulous. It must be a fairly light musk. That might be worth blending.
I also wanted to say, I couldn’t help myself. I ordered some of PC’s body butters (the little mini sampler)and they are FAAAAAN-tastic! The “Fire Topaz” smells like Christmas to me. It smells like cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, and orange spice. Very warm, and appropriately named. The body butters are about the consistancy of cake icing. I’m used to traditional lotions from like, Bath & Body Works, so this thicker mixture was weird at first, but even since yesterday evening when they arrived, I love the feel of them (they’re not sticky like frosting, should clarify that)
I like the way they feel too, after Ive put it on and even several hours later, if my hands get wet-I guess the oil in the body butter temporarily repels the water, so its a neat feeling 🙂
I use scented lotions for a soft, subtle perfume, and these work great for that too. The Fire Topaz is very strong (which I like) and the Blackberry Bramble is nice, but not as strongly scented. 🙂 My boyfriend, who is very “manly”, plays with snakes and reptiles, builds stuff, uses tools, drives big trucks-he liked the Fire Topaz. At first, he hated it, but I said “:P on you” and put some on anyway, and he liked it on, rather than in the container. He even put some on himself O.O Without any coaxing from me!
The Blue Willow is another great one-soft, feminine and floral. The cucumber-apricot smells more like apricot than cucumber, but it is a great light, fruity, summery scent. I forsee it being popular.
Ah, thank you! Yeah…my hubby also enjoys the fire topaz, and it smells much…fuller, on skin than it does in the container. This occurs with several scents! It’s because in the container, all you’re really smelling are a couple of ‘top notes’ from the scent blend…whereas on your skin all the different notes in a scent are allowed to come out much more fully, as they’re intended.
I have been tinkering with the idea of a musk scent, and I have used amber on occasion. The ‘Sensual Sandalwood’ has amber notes to it, and the blend is wonderful. I’ll admit I’m a bit more intimidated over working with musk as a blender because it’s much more of a ‘wild card’ when it comes to the final product.
Musks will smell different according to whomever is wearing it, depending on how it blends with their body chemistry. I personally have never been able to wear musks, they just dont smell very good on me….so I’d need to find someone to be my ‘scent guinea pig’ that wears musks and has good body chemistry for them.
Oh, and yeah…you definately dont want to get me started on my ‘antibacterial’ soapbox!
Hey PC! What a super endeavor! Here are some of favorite scents that I’ve combined and loved – you are more than welcome to use this mix if you care too. I’ve not made it up in years…
Top notes orange: bergamot, ylang-ylang and amber. The middle notes are: jasmine, cinnamon and patchouli and the base of the fragrance is: vanilla, sandalwood and cedar. YUM! I think a body lotion or cream would be wonderful!
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I personally have never been able to wear musks, they just dont smell very good on me….
Same here, anything musky turns to skunk smell on me!
I would agree that men prefer descriptive names for the scents, BUT do we know which sex would be making the selections? A male might want “Sandalwood”, but if his Significant Female is shopping on the site, “Indian Nights” (or something) could still be a better name because it would appeal to her.
That’s a fair point…
haha..yeah…well, musk seems to translate into an artificial BO smell for me. yick.
However, I’ve found I can wear amber blends, although I’ve heard some folks say that amber can also be a morphing scent. And some sandalwood oils smell good on me, while others dont. Odd.
It’s interesting that the Blue Willow came across as floral for you Wolfen! I love getting peoples responses to that scent, it seems to come across differently to each person who tries it! It’s a blend of fresh blueberries, light juniper, and fresh cut grass.
For me, the juniper and fresh cut grass really pull together and give a nice green note that’s the ‘Willow’ part of the blend, accenting the fruit and keeping it from becoming too sweet. I love the scent of blueberries, looove blueberries…..however so many blueberry scents come across more as a candy smell, or like some weird version of fruit loops, which is why I went a different direction with that scent. I dont particularly like wearing ‘candy’ scents, not often anyway.
Oh, and I really love the texture of the body butters when they’re cold. They seem to feel much thicker, and firmer when cold. They’ll ‘loosen’ slightly at warmer temps. It may sound odd, but on occasion I’ll stick a jar of it in my refrigerator, just so I can use it when it’s cold and has the texture I like.
OH. MY. GOD. PC, you are a genius!
I got my stuff in today!!
First, I must say that the ONLY thing that I haven’t liked so far is that the soaps are VERY strong. They actually overpowered themselves to the point where I haven’t truly smelled them yet – they all smell a little bit like each other! I think I’ll like them once they’ve breathed a little bit, and of course a strong soap means a lingering scent on the body, which is actually a plus in my book.
My favorite scent from the batch I got (in butter form) was Lemon Chiffon. You are totally right, you NAILED the pastry scent in this – I want to eat it! It reminds me of Nilla wafers topped with lemon curd. Delicious!
I also really love the Fire Topaz – I was actually trying it on my hands as I was reading the last half dozen posts, and I could definitely tell a difference between in-bottle and out-of-bottle scent – it’s much more pungent in the bottle. On my hands, it reminds me of a summer evening, sitting around a campfire (seriously, I can smell hints of smoke in it!).
Summer Champagne reminds me of candy – a strawberry jolly rancher in particular! It’s a very nostalgic scent to me 🙂
Marzipan is probably my second favorite – I love the saturated almond smell, it’s so rich and delicious!
I was expecting Cheshire Chai to be my favorite but it’s actually my least (which isn’t saying much because I adore all of them!), but that’s more than likely because I think the others make such wonderful scents to wear.
Cafe Noir – smells EXACTLY like coffee! It’s probably the best coffee scent I’ve ever tried.
I can’t wait to try the soaps! I got Hothouse Roses, Fire Topaz, and Raven’s Blend (which I am particularly looking forward to!) more on those once I get to try them each 🙂
Also, major kudos on the feel of the body butter – Wolfen is totally right, it’s got the consistency of frosting (and looks like it too!) without any stickiness. It leaves your hands feeling velvety and soft, not at all oily or sticky! You can count on me to be a repeat buyer for sure 🙂
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One thing to keep in mind with the soaps! The way they’re packaged, when you unpackage them from a box I have found that they’ll give your nose a wallop…but then be much less overwhelming when you use them.
They actually will stay on your skin less than the butters…but where they arent in airtight packaging, it seems as if they’re stronger because you can end up smelling more than one bar at once.
The wax paper and plastic baggie work wonderfully for preserving the soap, and keeping it from drying out, but you can still smell the soap despite them. I’ve found this to be true when folks come over and want to ‘test sniff’ several scents. (I tend to have butter samples set aside for that sort of thing)
I’ve contemplated whether to try different packaging to help this, or simply to leave it as is…I havent decided yet.
Let me know what you think of them once you get the chance to use them!
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