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Sorry for being MIA… but I figure it’s understandable. 😉
Mohan Irey was born on All Hallow’s Eve 2008.
7 pounds, 10.2 ounces.
19.5 inches longTurned out he had decided to stay full breech and was born feet first, LOL…
First Look…
At 3 Days…
DragonMistress wrote:dragonmedley wrote:I hear you!
I hadn’t thought about it while I was expecting. Then one day, in the store, I saw a milk extractor. Well… my grandfather use to have cows. When I saw that milk pump, it brought me right back to when the cows were getting milked. Slight psychological blockage. So… yeah… She got formula.
Lol, my husband’s father is a dairy farmer…my dear Zack has refered to me more than once as being milked, lol, he didn’t even think I would get offended, lol good thing I love him so much!!
Oh, and my surgery was a breast reduction, almost 10 years ago before they thought about preserving the ducts, so that’s why I’m not sure, but I am hoping!!
Oh, a breast reduction. 🙂 I hope to have that done at some point, and hopefully sooner rather than later. As soon as I can convince my insurance company that it would be “constructive” surgery over “cosmetic”, and as soon as I can hook up with Dr. Rey 90210 for a consult. 😉 (He does good work, from what I’ve seen.)It is disconcerting to be breastfeeding a baby whose head is smaller than your boob.
dragonmedley wrote:Serenity wrote:I be bottle feeding. I am personally not confertable with the idea of breast feeding. Never have been and from my understanding, if you are not confertable with it, its a waste of time since you probabaly won’t make much milk anyways. BUT I am not going to see if that is true or not. 😛
I hear you!
I hadn’t thought about it while I was expecting. Then one day, in the store, I saw a milk extractor. Well… my grandfather use to have cows. When I saw that milk pump, it brought me right back to when the cows were getting milked. Slight psychological blockage. So… yeah… She got formula.
LMAO!!!Oh, my! 😆
DragonMistress wrote:I’m going to throw my 2 cents in here… Personally, I feel that whatever makes you feel the most comfortable and safest is what you should do, it is after all your expeiriance. That pertains to how you choose to birth, feed, diaper, and raise your child. My personal labor plan is to go as naturally as possible, that for me means that I will wait for him to decide when he wants to come out, I am also going to try waterbirthing, or at least laboring in the birth tub. I don’t want an epidural, I would prefer to stay away from pitocin also. That being said…If my baby is in danger, would I say no to a c-section? absolutly not. whatever gets him here safest for the both of us is what I will do, it’s just my personal last resort. Would I feel like I failed if I needed pain control? no, but I want to try and do it the way that feels most comfortable to me. Is my plan the best? or the only option? no. My best friend has 2 boys, she induced with both, had epidurals and episiotomys, and will likley do exactly the same with her third, due any day now. I have a friend who is exceptionally small framed, and is a scheduled section, to eliminate much of the risk of delivering her very large baby. I am going to try to breastfeed, but surgery might make it impossible, and then I will formula feed. I would miss the bonding that I could share if I were able to breastfeed, but it wouldn’t make me any less of a loving mother. So basically I wanted to wish all of the expectant Mammas a safe, healthy and happy birth, and a heartfelt Blessed Be to your children!
Thank you, and exactly. 🙂
(Although surgery doesn’t make breastfeeding impossible. 🙂 But sometimes you have to get creative with the pillows. ;))
Waterbirthing — I’d so wanted to do that with my first. Oh well, maybe I’ll get to live vicariously through my daughters if/when FAAAAR into the future they have my grandchildren. 😉 LOL!
Quote:So basically I wanted to wish all of the expectant Mammas a safe, healthy and happy birth, and a heartfelt Blessed Be to your children!
From me, too! 😀
*group preggo hug, LOL*DragonMistress wrote:eaglefeather831 wrote:Wait…how does 666=9? I have to ask. 🙂
Numerology~ 6+6=12+6=18
1+8=9
Numerology breaks things down to the smallest number, just to briefly touch on it….there’s reasons it’s done and without starting a religios debate, that’s the quickedt explanation 😀
Yep. I study Numerology and Astrology.
9 is my favorite number, with 6 in 2nd place. 🙂Kyrin wrote:I understand the whys behind why you are doing it the way you are, NOW. Not having that background when I wrote my post, is why it ended up offending you, which was not the intention at all.
As for accusing me of being preachy, that is unfair. My experiences are just as valid as yours, and my experience has been that if you can do it, vaginal birth is the easiest (in the long run when it comes to recovery) way to go.
I personally have a phobia about being cut open for any reason, so for me I consider a c-sec an absolute last resort, and it should be for valid medical reasons, like yours.
That’s what I was trying to touch on, that c-sec should only be done if needed, and not just cause it is easier, more convenient, etc. And I am sure that as a OB/GYN RN, you can agree with many of my points. I wasn’t suggesting that you didn’t have good reasons for your method of birth, I was just saying that if you didn’t have to go that way because of medical reasons, avoiding a c-sec would be the ideal birth situation.
Kyrin
Quote:I understand the whys behind why you are doing it the way you are, NOW.
See? That was the biggest problem. You jumped in without knowing anything.
Quote:As for accusing me of being preachy, that is unfair.
No one said your personal experiences aren’t valid. The problem is that you were generalizing overall, and yes, you came off as preachy, especially since you were posting not knowing anything, making assumptions (starting with that I was planning on being induced, which isn’t the case).
You took the fact that I mentioned a scheduled delivery date in addition to my mention of my doc’s guesstimate of what my son currently weighs, and got on a soapbox about inductions and c-sections and natural births and waiting for baby, and so on.
I only mentioned my son’s potential weight because of the other ladies on this board who are close to my own expected date, and it’s fun to see how little ones compare at various stages of development.
The other support for coming off as preachy, was this:
Quote:so for me I consider a c-sec an absolute last resort, and it should be for valid medical reasons, like yours.
Now you come off as having absolved me of some sin because you’ve decided I’m being sectioned for “valid medical reasons”. Who’s to say that’s the case? That isn’t the call for you to make. Birth is a personal experience, and women make their decisions on when/how to deliver based on that.
I have a friend who, for no medical reason whatsoever, decided to be induced on 6/3/06. Why? Because she was worried that her baby would instead decide to show up on 6/6/06 and she didn’t want 666 to be the number of her daughter’s birth. I could say it was also probably religious beliefs-based, but I never asked. Myself, I think it would have been cool. 666 = 9 which is a magickal number, but there you go. Oh, and her induction went smoothly – no c-section needed.
Quote:I was thinking along the lines of first child, not fourth.
Again, preachy.
Brand new moms have enough fears and concerns without having someone lay a guilt trip on them based on their own personal experiences or whatever about their delivery method of choice.
A c-section is not easier, certainly not more convenient. But yes, has become more common. If you’re curious as to why, you might want to ask the lawyers in this country and those who determine malpractice insurance premiums. OB-Gyns have amongst the highest malpractice insurance premium rates. Some apparently have determined that c-sections would be safest all around at the slightest risk during a delivery in an attempt to avoid a potential lawsuit for not doing a c-section (or not doing a c-section soon enough) if – god forbid – the birth ends badly.
Quote:I wasn’t suggesting that you didn’t have good reasons for your method of birth, I was just saying that if you didn’t have to go that way because of medical reasons, avoiding a c-sec would be the ideal birth situation.
Again, preaching your opinion.
Makes me curious as to what, precisely, in your mind constitutes a “medical reason”. Some women have extremely high anxiety over vaginal births. Extremely high, and despite all attempts, are unable to mentally cope with the thought of a vaginal delivery for whatever reasons. Some women have partners who put their own pressure on them saying they’re creeped out at the thought of their woman’s hoo-hoo stretching that much to accommodate a baby, and express doubts of being sexually attracted to the woman after. (Yeah, I know. Pieces of work, I tell you, but I’ve seen it.)
I also haven’t forgotten one woman’s cry of disillusionment after being encouraged to start pushing: Push? I don’t even push a vacuum!
As a Nurse, my job is to help make the experience and recovery the best possible for my patient(s), regardless of their chosen method.
Moving on…
Myself, I am eagerly looking forward to my first glass of a rich, red merlot with fresh mozzarella wrapped with thin slices of prosciutto. Mmmmmmm…
Serenity wrote:Ohh… I am at 37 weeks and ready… Whew! She is head down and has been for 3 weeks now… I think she is pretty much ready too! lol 😛
Oh, very cool.
My little man is still head up, and has been at least since week 33. LOL.
Come to think of it, I think he’s been that way since the beginning, LOL!
Ahh… breast feeding. I am so hoping this little guy will be as enthused about the concept as his brother was. My daughters were okay with it, but stopped on their own waaay before I was ready. 🙁 WAY before.
Since he’ll be my last, I’ve got my fingers crossed. 🙂
Dragon87 wrote:Well, that answered my question. Thanks. My mom’s life was in danger with her emergency one, which is why she had it.
So… um… back to the original cheerful excited celebratory programming?
*puts on party hat*
LMAO!Do we have any non-alcoholic Kristal? 😉
Dragon87 wrote:With C-sections is it still that if you have one, you have to have them for the rest, because the child coming out naturally could potentially tear the scar tissue from the last time?
Or have they gotten that much better (other then smaller scars) since I was born? My mother had an emergency C-section with her first and after that both me and my brother were C-sections, for the reason that a natural birth would risk rupturing the scar tissue…
Just curious I don’t mean anything by it…
It really depends on the type of C-section originally performed, in particular, the uterine incision. Uterine rupture is a potentially life-threatening risk for both mom and babe that one takes into consideration when contemplating a VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) though, regardless.However, if a woman had a vertical incision, especially a larger one for whatever reason (multiple babies, emergent situation seem to be the only reasons why any OB-surgeon would perform this type of C-section anymore), then the answer is generally, Yes: “Once a c-section, always a c-section.” (An old saying.)
But from my experience, the majority of OB-surgeons use the safer and smaller, better healing and stronger method of the horizontal incision, usually done just above your pubic bone, following “the bikini line”, for both abdomen and uterus. (And even with multiples, depending on how many multiples. I’ve seen twins sectioned that way, but not triplets.)
The horizontal and lower incision is in a stronger part of the uterus, which makes it possible for a woman to attempt a vaginal delivery after having had a c-section. However, it is said that the more c-sections a woman has had, the less safe a VBAC becomes, but I think it would be important to take in the woman’s health history before and during the current pregnancy, as well as before, during, and after any previous pregnancies/deliveries to determine that.
I’m thinking that it might have been possible for me, but not only am I leery over that option because this will be my fourth, I’m having more than just a c-section surgical procedure done at the same time. Plus, a personal concern would be attempting a VBAC to only wind up needing an emergent cesarean anyway would really burn my butt.
(Emergent sections are a scary time, IMO, by their very nature of being emergent. There’s a reason why that baby needs to come out and now, and generally it’s because one or two lives are at risk.)
Scheduled c-sections don’t have to be the horrible experience that so many determine they are. The procedure itself has saved lives. And with doctors becoming more open to a woman’s concerns and desires for how she’d like her birth experience to be, they’ve become that much better — as close to a vaginal as possible.
ETA: For the record, I’m not so much a cesarean advocate over vaginal advocate so much as I am an advocate for a safe and healthy birth, period. I have seen new moms go into serious depressions because of having built hopes up on “going only natural with no drugs, etc”, only to wind up needing a cesarean and it seems to blow their world apart. The amount of guilt and bad feelings over not getting to experience the birth as they’d planned and dreamed is mind-boggling to witness. I spend a lot of time trying to remind these women that the birth is just one day. Motherhood is for life. If someone had to pull my son out of my *ear* in order for him or both of us to survive, then so be it.
C-section birth plans are available (I have one available on my own website) on the internet, or one could create their own, and where I’ve worked, we’ve followed them. Babies who aren’t in distress are placed on Mom’s belly immediately after birth; some even start breastfeeding while the Mom is being sewn up. Women can discuss all of this and more with their OBs prior to delivery if a c-section seems to be the safest route for both mom and baby.
Childbirth, vaginally or surgically, is a miracle in and of itself. Whenever I’ve witnessed either, it’s always brought tears of joy to my eyes both as a Mom and as a Nurse. I’ve always been honored to have been a part of such a miracle, regardless of the method.
dragonmedley wrote:Congrats!
Any progress on the name? My brain’s not yielding anything that starts with Mo…
Weeelll…
Both yes, and no.My husband and I managed to switch our favorite names that we’d come up with — Now I love the one he’d originally come up with, and dislike the one I came up with and vice versa.
The only problem (IMO ;)) with him no longer liking the name, is that I made the stupid mistake of pointing out that it was only one letter different than an ex-boyfriend’s.
The ironic thing, is that it really rings perfectly.
So we’ll see.
I think we’ve finally reached an agreement with the “I” name. 🙂
Kyrin wrote:Krysia wrote:It’s officially scheduled:
Baby Boy Delivery on All Hallow’s Eve. I can’t wait!!! 😀
My doc guestimates that he’s around 7.5 pounds right now (I’m 38 weeks, 3 days).
And Day 10 is done… 9 more to go!
He’s not that big yet, why the rush to get him out, gestation can be as long as 42 weeks, so what’s the hurry, is there something wrong with you or the baby?? Since they are waiting another 9 days, I am guessing that isn’t the case. I hope you go into labor naturally before the “scheduled” date.
It really isn’t good to induce, often labor doesn’t start and then you end up with a C-sec when if things had been left alone, you wouldn’t have. And trust me, natural labor is much easier to recover from than a huge slice across your abdomen. I was back to normal and not all that sore after about 3 days.
My sister in law had c-secs both times and was miserable, but for her it was the only way, they had sound medical reasons why she couldn’t risk labor due to previous damage to her uterus from an etopic pregnancy. If she’d had a choice, she would have gone natural.
Anyway, I am happy your little one will soon be here, I just wish you wouldn’t rush the little guy, he’ll come when he’s ready. I hope you’ll reconsider your inducement. After all, you’ve got 9 days for him to decide to show up, and if it takes a few days after that, what does it really matter?? Karli was 5 days past her due date, she still was only 8.8 lbs and 19 inches long. So if they are telling you he will be too big, they are full of it.
Kyrin
Considering you know absolutely nothing about my pregnancy and me, I’m trying very hard to not take offense at your supposedly well-meaning post.I’m actually a Women’s Health-OB-Gyn Registered Nurse, and this is my 4th child.
And? This will be my 4th c-section, and I get really pissed off at people who preach stuff like this:
Quote:It really isn’t good to induce, often labor doesn’t start and then you end up with a C-sec when if things had been left alone, you wouldn’t have. And trust me, natural labor is much easier to recover from than a huge slice across your abdomen. I was back to normal and not all that sore after about 3 days.
to others without knowing a damn thing.
Congrats to you. Myself, “I was back to normal after my c-sections and not all that sore after about 3 days” as well, c-section and all, all three times. And after my son was born in 2005, I with my “huge slice across my abdomen”, was home from the hospital the second day. The “huge slice”? 10 centimeters. Good OB-surgeons aim for the smallest incision possible. Perhaps you’ve not been in the operating room to witness surgical births; you might have known this.
It’s no one’s business as to why I’m having another section, but a good part of why I have a “scheduled” delivery is because my absolutely fabulous and wonderful OB happens to be a 3-hours’ drive from where I live. Not to mention the drastically changing weather that constitutes “Fall” in Montana. I figure a person in Idaho could relate to that, at least.
Quote:So if they are telling you he will be too big, they are full of it.
“They” are doing nothing of the sort. I keep tabs on my son’s growth because of my personal history, which after reading your extremely judgmental and presumptuous post, I’m not inclined to share.
I’ve worked Labor & Delivery, I’ve worked the post-partum floor, I’ve worked with midwives and doulas and doctors, and what I’ve learned after witnessing good births and bad where I’ve had to give comfort to grieving parents and dress their stillborn for them or comfort a partner because the mother has died is that I don’t give a god damn HOW my baby arrives into this world as long as he is healthy and alive and I am too.
I’m signing off now, because the “trying not to take offense” thing I was working on didn’t work, and I would like to stay calm.
It’s officially scheduled:
Baby Boy Delivery on All Hallow’s Eve. I can’t wait!!! 😀
My doc guestimates that he’s around 7.5 pounds right now (I’m 38 weeks, 3 days).
And Day 10 is done… 9 more to go!
Quote:Personally I have NEVER had a bad experience with Windstone – they and Astral Castle remain my favorite companies to deal with.
ICAM.
Maybe the person did it for the fame:
The only person in 2000 to leave a smudge on the otherwise pristine eBay aura of Windstone.
😉(Some people like notoriety. To each their own. :D)
Dragon Master wrote:khat7 wrote:Where is everybody? The list of eggs and hatchlings is looking pretty bare 😳
I was wondering the same thing!!
I can only keep one alive at a time right now since I’m only posting here in my siggy
It seems to be working but it’s SLOWI’ve noticed that as well.
The last time I tried for more than one… was months ago.
The skywing I had (was it one or two?) before the one I managed to raise as a solo child to adulthood refused to survive.
It was depressing.
