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June 16, 2007 at 4:26 am #589412
What a fool. I know I’m not buying. Even if I wanted the piece I would not buy from him with a listing like that.
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June 16, 2007 at 5:21 am #589413Rusti, did you mention how he flat out lied? “I can’t find pictures of it anywhere” where LIH proved that to be a lie? If he denys that… 🙄
June 16, 2007 at 5:29 am #589414i think he is just not worth the effort considering. I mean really, even if he is being a “jerk”………..does this person matter to any of us at all? He will get what ever he deserves when no one buys the thing and maybe he will learn.
June 16, 2007 at 2:23 pm #589415I was considering getting that gargoyle, since my husband likes the gargoyles a bit. I could deal with the comments in the auction, but his response to Rusti was just rude. I won’t buy it now!
June 16, 2007 at 2:50 pm #589416I won’t deal with people that are jerks. There are too many nice, honest and ethical people out there struggling to sell items and make a living- why deal with someone that is so openly a jackass and give them my money? Even for a rare item.
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My art: featherdust.comJune 16, 2007 at 3:20 pm #589417Kujacker wrote:Rusti, did you mention how he flat out lied? “I can’t find pictures of it anywhere” where LIH proved that to be a lie? If he denys that… 🙄
No. Really, I was a nice as I could’ve been. I just said that the subtitle and item description could come off as condescending and rude and it might sell better if he removed them, and I got *that* response.
So much for an attempt at being helpful.
June 16, 2007 at 6:30 pm #589418I really dont see anything wrong with the listing. He just sounds dissapointed that no one wants his peice. It would upset me, too, if the resale value on one of my peices went down. I dont really see that he is being a jerk, either. 😕
June 16, 2007 at 7:10 pm #589419How rude, 🙁
June 16, 2007 at 8:20 pm #589420littleironhorse wrote:Quote: That’s funny, since they used a picture from the Astral Castle Encyclopedia!!!
Unfortunately we don’t own the copyright to that image (it belongs to Windstone Editions), so without authorisation to do so, I don’t know that it is my place to call him on it (even though it was clearly lifted from our Encyclopedia). I have dropped a line to John, though, because I do need to know how Windstone Editions would like such infractions handled; whether or not a Copyright notice would be required and sufficient, for example.
June 16, 2007 at 8:52 pm #589421skigod377 wrote:I really dont see anything wrong with the listing. He just sounds dissapointed that no one wants his peice. It would upset me, too, if the resale value on one of my peices went down. I dont really see that he is being a jerk, either. 😕
OH that’s totally understandable to be upset that his piece didn’t sell…but he could have dealt with it in a more mature manner. It was/is un-necessary to put
Quote:I would love to sell this item to you but am saddened when people write me and offer me less. Especially when I look in their history and see that they have paid over $125 for a very common piece like the Unicorn Gargoyle or another peacock colored piece (yawn). I think its sad when people try to take advantage of others.
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June 16, 2007 at 9:01 pm #589422The Castle [Dave wrote:“]
littleironhorse wrote:Quote: That’s funny, since they used a picture from the Astral Castle Encyclopedia!!!
Unfortunately we don’t own the copyright to that image (it belongs to Windstone Editions), so without authorisation to do so, I don’t know that it is my place to call him on it (even though it was clearly lifted from our Encyclopedia). I have dropped a line to John, though, because I do need to know how Windstone Editions would like such infractions handled; whether or not a Copyright notice would be required and sufficient, for example.
LIH didn’t mean it was a copyright violation… she said that because the guy said something along the lines of “I think this is a very rare piece because I can’t find pictures of it anywhere” and yet he’s using a picture that he found on the internet in his listing.
June 16, 2007 at 9:20 pm #589423skigod377 wrote:I really dont see anything wrong with the listing. He just sounds dissapointed that no one wants his peice. It would upset me, too, if the resale value on one of my peices went down. I dont really see that he is being a jerk, either. 😕
The thing is, you can never count on collectables to hold their value. Some do, some don’t, you never know. I never buy art with resale in mind. Of coarse, we always hope it goes up in value. 🙂
June 16, 2007 at 9:35 pm #589424Kujacker wrote:I’m kind of insulted about the peacock dragon thing. I’m a prime example… I don’t fancy all the gargoyles THAT’S MY TASTES AS OTHERS,
Yes, I find it really funny that he can’t imagine why people would pay more for a peacock dragon than a gargoyle… even though there’s a huge difference in size (that’s a pretty tiny gargoyle), style (carved/rustic vs. highly realistic), and paint job (the paints used on dragons is expensive, pushing up their price).
It’s like demanding to know why people won’t pay $3 a pound for greens, since they pay $3 a pound for cherries. :::rolls eyes:: Some people just have willful blindness down to an art!
I half-sympathize with his complaint about offers, though, because Ebay rules do state “no selling off Ebay” — buyers should report any seller who offers to sell outside of an auction, and sellers shouldn’t accept offers to buy the item outside of an auction.
(Now, if he was emailed and asked to simply change the auction price, that’s different, but the way it was phrased — “I emailed an offer” — doesn’t sound like that’s what happened).
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June 19, 2007 at 12:20 am #589425Now I’M offended, his coworker is a “witch”, huh? and it repelled her? I am a Witch, through and through, and my windstones don’t repell me!! JERK
June 19, 2007 at 1:10 am #589426nightcrow wrote:Kujacker wrote:I’m kind of insulted about the peacock dragon thing. I’m a prime example… I don’t fancy all the gargoyles THAT’S MY TASTES AS OTHERS,
Yes, I find it really funny that he can’t imagine why people would pay more for a peacock dragon than a gargoyle… even though there’s a huge difference in size (that’s a pretty tiny gargoyle), style (carved/rustic vs. highly realistic), and paint job (the paints used on dragons is expensive, pushing up their price).
It’s like demanding to know why people won’t pay $3 a pound for greens, since they pay $3 a pound for cherries. :::rolls eyes:: Some people just have willful blindness down to an art!
I half-sympathize with his complaint about offers, though, because Ebay rules do state “no selling off Ebay” — buyers should report any seller who offers to sell outside of an auction, and sellers shouldn’t accept offers to buy the item outside of an auction.
(Now, if he was emailed and asked to simply change the auction price, that’s different, but the way it was phrased — “I emailed an offer” — doesn’t sound like that’s what happened).
in regards to the “offers”, he ran the dragon previously, as an auction with a buy it now of $150 (i think) or best offer. he WAS looking to take offers. noone but myself made an offer ( i think i offered $85, anticipating shipping on top of that), as it shows on the listing who makes an offer and when, but not the amount. i am not sure of other people made offers to him privately. the listing ended as he did not take my offer (he countered with $125, which i turned down) and he relisted it in the buy it now section, plus his personal comments.
you’re exactly right with the difference in value for the stone finish vs. the painted dragon finish. its infinitely more work and far more expensive paint on the dragons, plus stones and glass eyes, there is simply no comparing. for example, a stone kitten will run you 21-27 bucks, whereas the griffin chick will set you back 52 or more. how about the good cat candlelamp? 58-68 or so, yet a male dragon or male griffin of about the same height will set you back 120 to 144! well more than double for about the same size piece!! big difference!hence i started collecting only the stone pieces for economys’ sake until i couldn’t help myself anymore! -
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