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I’m pretty sure that in the original dialogue when Melody was first sculpting them there was a strong possibility for the bean poads to be a PYO. Then they became a KS exclusive. I don’t know if they intend to make it PYO-only after the KS or not; if so, sweet, if not, not a problem.
Some people will likely strongly disagree with me on this next bit but…I do think that, since they are meant to be exclusive (at least ones painted by Melody), they should stick to their guns on that point. It was already extremely generous of them to open up the backer store for the Kickstarter poads, giving us backers the opportunity to save up a little more money and add additional ones to our clutters. But it’s not something that was ever meant to be permanent. As adorable as the beans are and as versatile as the schemes could be, there eventually has to be a limit to what can and should be done with them. Especially if the intention was to keep them as unique, one-of-a-kind event pieces.
Don’t get me wrong: I love the beans. I have a handful of them coming with my clutter. But things are only special if they’re limited. Additionally, Melody has a ton of things on her workbench that could use the extra time. Off the top of my head, the upright baby/young oriental dragon, new flion, possible female flion, possible hoarder dragon release/kickstarter idea, long list of requests for various gb releases in the future, possible LP runs for the both new pebble dragons, so on as so forth. Not to mention trying to keep up with Rue Day pages! I’m not saying the beans have to stop “right now”, but it should taper off in the future.
Also, as cute as Halloween beans could be, that scheme really doesn’t have anything to do with The Veligent themes, i.e. doesn’t really have anything to do with the Kickstarter…which is what the beans are all about.
I’m with Rylorien 100% on her post. The whole point of beans in Kickstarter and what Melody said originally was they were exclusive to this Kickstarter project.
Kickstarter rewards are supposed to be things that are not otherwise available. Making them widely (or even occasionally) available after the project to non-backers diminishes the value (both monetary and personal) significantly.
It could also have a negative effect on future projects (like maybe Melody’s next book) if people think they can get something after the fact (secondary market not included) without actually backing the project.
So, please, Melody, stick to your guns and keep your promise that the beans will be retired after the project ends with the books being shipped.
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I agree as well. The beans may be really neat, but as an exclusive Kickstarter item they should be retired. Maybe if the sculpt does become a PYO people can do their own Halloween Beans.
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*** Come visit me on deviantArt at http://ela-hara.deviantart.comI’m pretty sure that in the original dialogue when Melody was first sculpting them there was a strong possibility for the bean poads to be a PYO. Then they became a KS exclusive. I don’t know if they intend to make it PYO-only after the KS or not; if so, sweet, if not, not a problem. Some people will likely strongly disagree with me on this next bit but…I do think that, since they are meant to be exclusive (at least ones painted by Melody), they should stick to their guns on that point. It was already extremely generous of them to open up the backer store for the Kickstarter poads, giving us backers the opportunity to save up a little more money and add additional ones to our clutters. But it’s not something that was ever meant to be permanent. As adorable as the beans are and as versatile as the schemes could be, there eventually has to be a limit to what can and should be done with them. Especially if the intention was to keep them as unique, one-of-a-kind event pieces. Don’t get me wrong: I love the beans. I have a handful of them coming with my clutter. But things are only special if they’re limited. Additionally, Melody has a ton of things on her workbench that could use the extra time. Off the top of my head, the upright baby/young oriental dragon, new flion, possible female flion, possible hoarder dragon release/kickstarter idea, long list of requests for various gb releases in the future, possible LP runs for the both new pebble dragons, so on as so forth. Not to mention trying to keep up with Rue Day pages! I’m not saying the beans have to stop “right now”, but it should taper off in the future. Also, as cute as Halloween beans could be, that scheme really doesn’t have anything to do with The Veligent themes, i.e. doesn’t really have anything to do with the Kickstarter…which is what the beans are all about.
In my opinion, the ability to buy any “Reptangle” Poads should have ended when the Kickstarter did. However, that isn’t relevant now.
The beans were, and are, clearly identified as a Kickstarter only item. For those who can’t see the Kickstarter store page: “Released in 2018, these Mini-Bean Poad sculptures are an EXCLUSIVE reward for Melody Pena’s 2018 Kickstarter only offered through this special Kickstarter Backers store.”
And, for what it’s worth, … IF Melody was continuing to paint beans “Hallowbeans” could be beans painted in black and orange (not beans with Halloween designs on them). I agree that Halloween itself does not have anything to do with “Reptangle”.
If “Rue Day” is a Kickstarter in the future, I wonder what the rewards for that will look like. Food fight Poads?
I too agree with all that Rylorian and the ones after her have stated. The mini-beans are an exclusive KS reward and should remain so. The KS was something most of us in the forums knew was upcoming for well over a year before it happened which gave everyone time to save, barring any unexpected emergencies.
I know for me personally I would not have bought as many of the mini-beans as I have if I thought they were going to become something everyone could buy at a later date. As adorable as they are, for me, in part their exclusiveness adds to their value. I would be less likely to try and save as much for any new KS if I thought the exclusive rewards were all of a sudden going to become available to everyone.
I think Melody has been incredibly kind to continue to paint for those of us who did back the KS. I know that I have bought some additional members to my clutter and they are all much loved and appreciated!
I do love the thought of Halloween painted poads and I think that the tad poads would make a fantastic candidate for that. Just think vampire tad poads with black and white tufts! Or orange ones with green tufts. So many possibilities and still affordable!
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"COSMIC SHIFT DRAGONS and KI-RINS" and the "OCTOPUS TANUKI TEST PAINT #1"I treasure my Kickstarter Special and Adult Poads! They are such a thing of beauty! The mini-beans were a fun addition to the Kickstarter and made a great affordable add-on. It was extremely nice of Melody to do a small batch of extra beans for the Kickstarter backers. I’m sure some people asked, and she always tries very hard to fulfill requests. But these tiny little guys HAVE to be very time-consuming for Melody! ! So as much as we love them, I’m OK with waving good-bye to the little rascals.
Maybe they could make an appearance again someday with Melody making ‘grab bag holiday beans’, and do some holiday colored beans occasionally.
Oooooo – food fight poads! !
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I LOVE the idea of a Halloween OR Holiday Tadpoad Grab Bag! We haven’t had a Tadpoad GB since the Safari Tads…
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*** Come visit me on deviantArt at http://ela-hara.deviantart.comIf “Rue Day” is a Kickstarter in the future, I wonder what the rewards for that will look like. Food fight Poads?
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I had planned on ordering more beans after from the Kickstarter store, but I later reconsidered for that very reason. I didn’t think it was all that fair to make Melody keep painting beans when the Kickstarter had technically ended. Her time would be better spent on new projects. I still want more of course, but realistically I have enough and am very happy with my purchase.
I’d also echo they were meant to be exclusive, but it honestly wouldn’t bother me if they weren’t. However, I’d probably NOT make them PYOs at this point. Since they have already been released as being painted by Melody I would think with their small size and lack of felt pad they would be really easy to pawn off to those who missed the Kickstarter as “official kickstarter bean painted by Melody” when they were really not. Of course, I’m not saying anyone here would do that, but it would just be asking for trouble in my opinion.
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Male Hearth....one day🤞Dream on.For my two cents, I agree that a “Kickstarter Exclusive” sculpt should remain a Kickstarter Exclusive and not become a grab bag or holiday release later.
I will add, however, I don’t see any reason that bean Poads couldn’t appear again if Melody ever offers another Kickstarter. The language in the KS didn’t say they were a [i]one-time[/i] release, so perhaps if Melody comes up with another project somewhere down the road that she wants to fund via KS, the bean Poads will spring into action to raise the money! 😀
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I agree with Nightcrow. After all, there will have to be a Kickstarter for Rueday at some point. Although Melody says it will take a while yet to finish. I’m hoping she will do Reptanglian design young poads and tadpoads for that one, so I can get a whole set. I also second heraldic carp and think a special release of the winged lion ki-rin Ayonah would be great for the next one. Of course, that’s hardly going to be “what’s next on the schedule”.
I don’t know much about Kickstarter, but as far as I was always aware, the whole draw of backing a KS was to get exclusive items. If I thought I was getting an exclusive item, and turns out oh nope you didn’t, myself? I’d be disappointed. And as others mentioned, might do harm for future KS (if I knew I could get said “exclusive” item without backing the KS… then I’d just wait).
Disclaimer: I don’t like poads at all, so my opinion has nothing to do with them.Similarly, I see rewards on the website Patreon, I.E. “Pay $10 a month and you’ll see my artwork three days before everyone else”. Uh naw, I’m patient, I’ll wait. Now if I was told “Pay $10 a month and you’ll see exclusive artwork no one else will”, then oh yes I’m interested.
Kinda the same idea with the KS.Most of the stuff I back, and see, on Kickstarter is stuff that is likely eventually going to be released for sale to the general public. Just usually backers get it sooner, and often for less cost. The whole point of Kickstarter isn’t exclusivity. It’s to back something that might otherwise not get made because the artist cannot afford to do so without guaranteed backing to cover the cost of starting and producing it. To be forced to limit something to just a kickstarter, from a business standpoint, is not a good idea. Especially something as popular as the bean poads seem to be. Would also be like saying that if you didn’t get in the kickstarter you would never be able to read the comic. Again, foolish. Maybe you get a nicer copy, but if its something that makes a great deal of money, why wouldn’t Melody, or whoever else, want to release the same comic, albeit maybe without as many bells and whistles? As far as the bean poads go, no, they should not be exclusive if selling them is profitable for the amount of time and effort it takes to produce them Maybe the type of paint job done for the Kickstarter is never repeated, but to stop an entire sculpt that might be something profitable for the company makes no sense. Yes, we are all collectors and all love Windstone, and no, nobody likes to see the value of a special piece decrease, or you shell out a lot of money for a test paint on E-bay and then a nearly identical color comes up LP or production. But let’s not forget that Windstone is a business and fantasy figures are not a necessity, they are a luxury item. Which means that, given the current economy, and the amount of time and effort that we know goes into making them, and that we know Windstone is not some huge corporation, every bit of profit maybe critical to the survival of the company. And if that “test paint” hadn’t come out, and lots of people hadn’t like it and “squeaked” for more, then it might never have become production at all. So that one piece might retain some of the value but it would only ever be one piece.
So yeah, unpopular I’m sure, but frankly coming from more than one hobby and doing a small hobby business as well, and seeing how hard things have gotten even for well-known sellers and artisans, sorry, but if it makes enough money and is popular enough to continue making, then yes. Come up with a way to make and sell more. For the people who are mad because they assumed something would be a “one off”, or whatever the question should be would you have bought it and supported the company, or not? Not how much the value of X item might decrease if more of a similar item is released later. This happens a lot in my other hobbies. Yes, some people get mad, but the people who missed it, couldn’t afford it the first time around, weren’t even in the hobby yet only to realize they missed out on something they would have really liked, will all be happy to buy said item if it comes up again, even in some slightly altered and/or limited run again. And the people who are mad because they can’t get three times the original cost of the item on the secondary market, well, that just says that the reason you bought the item wasn’t because you wanted to keep it anyhow.
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Cool, so that explains kickstarters. I’m completely neutral in this however, as I didn’t participate in the KS nor do I like poads… but I did have KS all wrong if no item is ever meant to be an exclusive item. So if that’s the case, then there really wouldn’t be an issue with the (bean?) poads being a regular production/pyo piece.
But I do keep hearing “kickstarter exclusive” in these posts… did Melody ever say that? Remember that I didn’t follow a single thing involving the KS or anything about it. I DO think, that if Melody specifically said that these poads were a ks exclusive, maybe that should be that… I understand that money is money for a business, but I also think things should be honored.
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