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A seller can block certain bidders, I do believe. But from what I have seen, it was accounts that were not often used (in most cases) and the auctions were often caught by ebay before any of us realized what happened.
The bogus bid on my Castle auction was a user who had 15 positive feedbacks, but hadn’t used his ebay account for almost 2 years.
It would be sad to block a newbie from getting a special piece, unless you know for a fact that they won’t pay. We all had to start somewhere.
keschete wrote:A seller can block certain bidders, I do believe. But from what I have seen, it was accounts that were not often used (in most cases) and the auctions were often caught by ebay before any of us realized what happened.
The bogus bid on my Castle auction was a user who had 15 positive feedbacks, but hadn’t used his ebay account for almost 2 years.
It would be sad to block a newbie from getting a special piece, unless you know for a fact that they won’t pay. We all had to start somewhere.
EXACTLY
I have worked hard over 2 years to get over 100 and keep it 100% positve on the feedback.WolfenMachine wrote:Is there some way to stop people with zero and negative feedback from bidding on official Windstone auctions? I’ve noticed the same person “i***l (0)” keeps throwing out high bids on Windstone auctions. If this is the same person who won and didn’t pay, obviously he or she would not pay again if he or she won, and therefore is just driving up the price for the rest of us. Not that I’m wanting Windstone’s auctions to end low, they deserve a profit too, but I don’t think its fair to have to fight/bid against someone who doesn’t really want the item, when maybe it’s the one special auction you’ve been waiting and saving for.
So far I’ve seen this person bidding on the most recent Barred wing Wolf Female Griffin, Olympia’s Blue Sun Dragon, the Gold Sunset #2 Griffin.
Let’s hope that if this person is fake, that he/she will be stopped!We can see the real ebay names of bidders. The bids aren’t getting pumped up artificially; it is just the final, high bids that have been phoney on these. We usually recognize all the other bidders, and we are recording the bid histories now!I hope it helps. It’s always disappointing, not being able to congratulate somebody at the end of an auction. 😛
Greater Basilisk wrote:I hope it helps. It’s always disappointing, not being able to congratulate somebody at the end of an auction. 😛
Thats true, but it’s a lot more fun receiving the congratulations. 😉
Melody wrote:We can see the real ebay names of bidders. The bids aren’t getting pumped up artificially; it is just the final, high bids that have been phoney on these. We usually recognize all the other bidders, and we are recording the bid histories now!
I noticed the two newest SKs have an interesting winning bidder.
The question I have is: that bidder, IF fraudulent, made quite a number of bids and bumped up the price to the winning one. For the second chance bidder, would they be offered their (pumped up) highest bid, or a price reflecting the removal of the fraudlulent several bids leading up to the final battle?
I’m just curious. Hope my question made sense.
Windstone collector in remission. 😉
Isn’t there a way that they have to approve who is bidding on auctions? I thought I saw that once on ebay somewhere.
Tyrrlin wrote:Melody wrote:We can see the real ebay names of bidders. The bids aren’t getting pumped up artificially; it is just the final, high bids that have been phoney on these. We usually recognize all the other bidders, and we are recording the bid histories now!
I noticed the two newest SKs have an interesting winning bidder.
The question I have is: that bidder, IF fraudulent, made quite a number of bids and bumped up the price to the winning one. For the second chance bidder, would they be offered their (pumped up) highest bid, or a price reflecting the removal of the fraudulent several bids leading up to the final battle?
I’m just curious. Hope my question made sense.This is the first time the hacker has placed bids during the auction, causing other legitimate bidders to bid higher than they normally would. Before this, the hacker has only put in a final winning bid. Of course we wouldn’t consider any of the fraudulent bids. Whichever real bidder put in the highest bid would get the second chance offer at the real price, not the pumped up price.
purpledoggy wrote:Isn’t there a way that they have to approve who is bidding on auctions? I thought I saw that once on ebay somewhere.
I think there is a way to have closed bidding, but we don’t want to do that if we can help it. Sometimes a mysterious bidder will swoop in from nowhere and be for real! This has happened a few times.
Also, I have noticed that some ebay sellers ask that new people email them before bidding. Could this be to see if they are real people, maybe? Do you think this could just be a program somebody invented?Melody wrote:purpledoggy wrote:Isn’t there a way that they have to approve who is bidding on auctions? I thought I saw that once on ebay somewhere.
I think there is a way to have closed bidding, but we don’t want to do that if we can help it. Sometimes a mysterious bidder will swoop in from nowhere and be for real! This has happened a few times.
Also, I have noticed that some ebay sellers ask that new people email them before bidding. Could this be to see if they are real people, maybe? Do you think this could just be a program somebody invented?From eBay:
“Pre-approved bidders
Occasionally, for certain high-profile listings, eBay will allow a seller to create a pre-approved bidders list to restrict their listings to a specified group of buyers. Here’s what you can expect if you bid on a listing that has a pre-approved bidders list:
If you are a pre-approved bidder: The bidding process will proceed as usual.
If you are not one of the pre-approved bidders: You’ll get a notice that the item is restricted, and you will not be allowed to bid on the item. If you are interested in the item, contact the seller to request being added to the pre-approved bidders list.”
Sellers can also block bidders by specific ID, the amount of their negative feedback or their total feedback. None of these would be effective, since they are stealing accounts.
As a seller, you can ask people to email you before they bid. I’ve seen this done in many auctions. No guarantee they will read the auction or follow your directions, though.
From eBay: “Legitimate reasons to cancel a bid include:
A bidder contacts you to back out of the bid.
You cannot verify the identity of the bidder after trying all reasonable means of contact.“
I wonder what eBay considers “reasonable”? I think if they don’t answer through eBay messaging, their bids should be canceled. If they won’t answer a simple question, how hard is it going to be to get them to pay?
I’m sorry you have to deal with this nonsense. It doesn’t seem like there’s an easy solution to the problem.
Indeed, some of the highest legitimate auction endings have gone to new collectors, or non-forum users (someone new swooping in to bid). Restricting bidders could seriously hurt Windstone’s income from eBay auctions. 🙁
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My art: featherdust.comJennifer wrote:Indeed, some of the highest legitimate auction endings have gone to new collectors, or non-forum users (someone new swooping in to bid). Restricting bidders could seriously hurt Windstone’s income from eBay auctions. 🙁
I agree! We don’t want bidders like Rumsey.2007 who is fairly new, and seems to have legit funds to not be able to bid. That bidder has had enormous legit bids and that is good for Windstone and good for collectors.
I think the way Melody and staff are handling this is perfect. Let the next highest bidder have a crack at the piece.
My problem with the Silver SK, was that I was #3 and the #2 bidder was trying to win the bid over #1. So I didn’t want to get stuck with a much inflated price if #2 and me #3 all got in a war with possibly bogus #1.
I hope that the #1 bidder is legit and if they are, welcome to the forum!
Plus the chance of other Silver SK’s made me not want to make the auction more complex than what it was already, in case there is a problem.
Melody, Please note that if #1 and #2 are not interested. I would be willing to buy this beautiful piece 🙂
keschete wrote:Jennifer wrote:Indeed, some of the highest legitimate auction endings have gone to new collectors, or non-forum users (someone new swooping in to bid). Restricting bidders could seriously hurt Windstone’s income from eBay auctions. 🙁
I agree! We don’t want bidders like Rumsey.2007 who is fairly new, and seems to have legit funds to not be able to bid. That bidder has had enormous legit bids and that is good for Windstone and good for collectors.
I think the way Melody and staff are handling this is perfect. Let the next highest bidder have a crack at the piece.
My problem with the Silver SK, was that I was #3 and the #2 bidder was trying to win the bid over #1. So I didn’t want to get stuck with a much inflated price if #2 and me #3 all got in a war with possibly bogus #1.
Exactly my point. Not that I want Windstone to go broke or anything, but if fraudulent bidders get into a war, it could cause the rest of us to pay artificially inflated prices.
Geez, I sound like a real witch, don’t I? 😛
Windstone collector in remission. 😉
Tyrrlin wrote:keschete wrote:Jennifer wrote:Indeed, some of the highest legitimate auction endings have gone to new collectors, or non-forum users (someone new swooping in to bid). Restricting bidders could seriously hurt Windstone’s income from eBay auctions. 🙁
I agree! We don’t want bidders like Rumsey.2007 who is fairly new, and seems to have legit funds to not be able to bid. That bidder has had enormous legit bids and that is good for Windstone and good for collectors.
I think the way Melody and staff are handling this is perfect. Let the next highest bidder have a crack at the piece.
My problem with the Silver SK, was that I was #3 and the #2 bidder was trying to win the bid over #1. So I didn’t want to get stuck with a much inflated price if #2 and me #3 all got in a war with possibly bogus #1.
Exactly my point. Not that I want Windstone to go broke or anything, but if fraudulent bidders get into a war, it could cause the rest of us to pay artificially inflated prices.
Geez, I sound like a real witch, don’t I? 😛
Well, let’s hope that the “bad guy” doesn’t get smart and just start pumping up the bidding a bit at a time and “letting” somebody else win. You’ll never know if you’re paying “inflated” prices or not.
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