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March 13, 2007 at 5:28 am #551438
Melody,
I have been looking for older/retired pieces for about a year and a half and I have run across 2 that had cracks in the paint/sealant (from different sellers). The finish was smooth to the touch and the paint wasn’t peeling or anything like that. It can only be seen when the sculp is being held at an angle to strong light. (Looking head-on you don’t notice it.) I was wondering what caused the finish to do that? And is it in danger of peeling or flaking off later on?
March 13, 2007 at 5:28 am #490091March 13, 2007 at 7:28 am #551439i have a peacock i think it’s the male i just got has that too
March 13, 2007 at 1:51 pm #551440My peacock young oriental has this hairline crazing over his entire paint job- very very fine crazing/crackling- the kind you’d see in a fired ceramic glaze that was designed to look like that. Like, ummm.. spiderwebs. Like this:
http://seco.glendale.edu/ceramics/gif%20resource%20file/sonrucicada647.jpgBut very, very fine, only noticeable under strong light when viewed up close.
Crazing usually occurs when something is under stress/ like when you try to bend a CD and get that tiny crackle pattern all over it. Obviously it also sometimes occurs as a reaction to extreme temperatures (such as ceramic glazes). I can’t forsee a Windstone undergoing either of these so the crazing is a bit of a mystery. I don’t know the history on my little dragon so I can’t tell you if he’s been through a lot or not!
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My art: featherdust.comMarch 13, 2007 at 3:35 pm #551441Nambroth wrote:My peacock young oriental has this hairline crazing over his entire paint job- very very fine crazing/crackling- the kind you’d see in a fired ceramic glaze that was designed to look like that. Like, ummm.. spiderwebs. Like this:
http://seco.glendale.edu/ceramics/gif%20resource%20file/sonrucicada647.jpgBut very, very fine, only noticeable under strong light when viewed up close.
Crazing usually occurs when something is under stress/ like when you try to bend a CD and get that tiny crackle pattern all over it. Obviously it also sometimes occurs as a reaction to extreme temperatures (such as ceramic glazes). I can’t forsee a Windstone undergoing either of these so the crazing is a bit of a mystery. I don’t know the history on my little dragon so I can’t tell you if he’s been through a lot or not!
Yep, that’s what it is. It’s the oddest thing. One dragon I saw only had it localized near the underside. The other one (different sculpt) had it all over. I was wondering if had to do with humidity or something like that.
March 13, 2007 at 3:43 pm #551442Nambroth wrote:My peacock young oriental has this hairline crazing over his entire paint job- very very fine crazing/crackling- the kind you’d see in a fired ceramic glaze that was designed to look like that. Like, ummm.. spiderwebs. Like this:
http://seco.glendale.edu/ceramics/gif%20resource%20file/sonrucicada647.jpgBut very, very fine, only noticeable under strong light when viewed up close.
Crazing usually occurs when something is under stress/ like when you try to bend a CD and get that tiny crackle pattern all over it. Obviously it also sometimes occurs as a reaction to extreme temperatures (such as ceramic glazes). I can’t forsee a Windstone undergoing either of these so the crazing is a bit of a mystery. I don’t know the history on my little dragon so I can’t tell you if he’s been through a lot or not!Hey, I think I have that glaze =D
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Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry DragonsMarch 13, 2007 at 3:56 pm #551443drag0nfeathers wrote:Nambroth wrote:My peacock young oriental has this hairline crazing over his entire paint job- very very fine crazing/crackling- the kind you’d see in a fired ceramic glaze that was designed to look like that. Like, ummm.. spiderwebs. Like this:
http://seco.glendale.edu/ceramics/gif%20resource%20file/sonrucicada647.jpgBut very, very fine, only noticeable under strong light when viewed up close.
Crazing usually occurs when something is under stress/ like when you try to bend a CD and get that tiny crackle pattern all over it. Obviously it also sometimes occurs as a reaction to extreme temperatures (such as ceramic glazes). I can’t forsee a Windstone undergoing either of these so the crazing is a bit of a mystery. I don’t know the history on my little dragon so I can’t tell you if he’s been through a lot or not!Hey, I think I have that glaze =D
Over your eyes! LoL j/k =P
March 13, 2007 at 4:30 pm #551444Good one!!! 😆
March 13, 2007 at 5:31 pm #551445SilverArrow wrote:Melody,
I have been looking for older/retired pieces for about a year and a half and I have run across 2 that had cracks in the paint/sealant (from different sellers). The finish was smooth to the touch and the paint wasn’t peeling or anything like that. It can only be seen when the sculp is being held at an angle to strong light. (Looking head-on you don’t notice it.) I was wondering what caused the finish to do that? And is it in danger of peeling or flaking off later on?I don’t know. I haven’t seen this. Can you photo it and show me?
I can’t imagine the finish cracking, because it isn’t brittle like a ceramic glaze, it should stay a little stretchy, because it is a plastic coating. The very old pieces had a different coating from the one we use now (it is more matte) The older dragons I have here haven’t done that, as far as I know.March 13, 2007 at 5:56 pm #551446Melody wrote:SilverArrow wrote:Melody,
I have been looking for older/retired pieces for about a year and a half and I have run across 2 that had cracks in the paint/sealant (from different sellers). The finish was smooth to the touch and the paint wasn’t peeling or anything like that. It can only be seen when the sculp is being held at an angle to strong light. (Looking head-on you don’t notice it.) I was wondering what caused the finish to do that? And is it in danger of peeling or flaking off later on?I don’t know. I haven’t seen this. Can you photo it and show me?
I can’t imagine the finish cracking, because it isn’t brittle like a ceramic glaze, it should stay a little stretchy, because it is a plastic coating. The very old pieces had a different coating from the one we use now (it is more matte) The older dragons I have here haven’t done that, as far as I know.Lemme go get a photo for you! 🙂
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My art: featherdust.comMarch 13, 2007 at 6:07 pm #551447Here you go. You can only see it from certain angles, and really isn’t very distracting. I know it’s hard to tell, but it’s NOT scratches on the surface, but crazing in the actual clearcoat. This guy is very smooth and glossy still.
This is the belly of my young oriental.Volunteer mod- I'm here to help! Email me for the best response: nambroth at gmail.com
My art: featherdust.comMarch 13, 2007 at 7:02 pm #551448Nambroth wrote:Here you go. You can only see it from certain angles, and really isn’t very distracting. I know it’s hard to tell, but it’s NOT scratches on the surface, but crazing in the actual clearcoat. This guy is very smooth and glossy still.
This is the belly of my young oriental.That’s exactly what I’ve seen. One was an oriental the other was a lap dragon (both had shiny smooth finishes like Nam described). Thanks for posting the pic Nam.
March 13, 2007 at 9:37 pm #551449yeah close ot what my peacock male has he has not too many of the cracks int he finish and i was trying to piece them out and decided just not to worry because they are not obvoius in all lights or angles def seem less so than that pic but they are there
March 18, 2007 at 4:18 am #551450*bump*
March 18, 2007 at 7:42 am #551451I have never seen that kind of crazing on any of the dragons we have here, which could mean … that it is caused by humidity? We have almost none of that here in So. Cal.
I really don’t have a clue what could be causing that.. We test the finish by soaking,freezing baking and refreezing pieces,and haven’t found this to happen, but that isn’t the same as years of humidity… and it seems to be most common on the bottoms?
What is the history of these dragons? Did you buy them new? Are they in humid environments? Any clues? -
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