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    Bob

      that makes sense Thanks

      #646867

      Jasmine wrote:

      The Canadian Mounted Police are a Canada wide group. They’re covered by the Federal Government.

      In Alberta they still get Alberta Health Care.

      #646868

      Health care in the US is horrendous.. 🙁 ..When I first started my horse training business, I had to choose between health and liability insurance because of the high cost. I chose liability to protect myself mainly from fraudulent claims. So, when health problems disabled me, I found myself battling both the state and federal governments for the right to much needed medical assistance. It’s a sin the way the doctors that work for government agencies treat patients. I could have had a seizure right in front of them or died from an odd turning of my head putting undue pressure on my spinal cord and they still would have told me to get up because there was nothing wrong with me.

      #646869
      lamortefille
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        That was a sucky experience, WolffSongg. 🙁 I’m glad my experience wasn’t like that. To make a very long story short, I had my daughter through state health care. I received great care and really wasn’t treated any better or worse when I had my son (with insurance, same group of doctors). I will say I had better pain drugs on the state plan, though. Also, they asked if a group of nursing students could be present for her delivery…those young ladies were wonderful….so new and caring….I had a full house for the delivery. 😆

        #646870
        KoishiiKitty
        Participant

          that is true. on my second sinus surgery, the one payed for by state healthcare(cause no one else would cover me) the nurses and practitioners there were completely sweet and made sure i was taken care of. I was in a lot of pain and shaking from nervouseness so they made sure some one was there with me and made sure i had enough pain meds to take care of the pain. they asked a lot of questions and got to know what had happend to me. it was just the docter and health insurance that was lacking consideration.

          #646871

          Our experiences with health care have ranged from truly awful to terrific.

          My best friend is diabetic, under 40, and until last year, after a 6 year fight for Social Security, and having to get a lawyer, he finally got it. Since then his care has been great. Previously it was terrible.

          It’s been 7 years since his diagnosis, and through those years the failure of the system and having no choice but to lean on the emergency room for care, he’s been hospitalized every year, at least once, and sometimes twice due to diabetes related problems. Each time he’s pressured about payments, though he has had no employement and has no means. Each time the doctors are condescending and rude, demanding to know why he didn’t take care of his problems sooner, when they know damn well that when you can’t pay, unless your life is being threatened, the emergency dept will kick you out the door.

          We know this to be true, because when he had a loop of intestine get looped in his hernia they turned him away because by the time we got to the hospital it had worked it’s way out again. A week later they ended up doing emergency hernia surgery on him anyway.

          From the start doctors have hurled pills at him, not had him come back for followup appts to make sure those drugs are doing what they are supposed to, and just washing their hands of him. He is not the type of person to go to a doctor he knows he can’t pay and demand pro bono treatments, or lie and tell them he will pay them, knowing he can’t.

          When the SS case judge asked him why he hadn’t done just that, he looked at the judge and said, “Wouldn’t that be fraud, sir? If I, knowing I can’t pay, took their services?” Judge looked abashed and conceeded the point.

          When you are over 18, under 65 and have a permanent condition that requires maintanence, like diabetes, you are SOL in this country. No one will help, there are no programs, and everyone thinks that it is someone else’s problem.

          We need some serious reform, badly.

          However, saying that, Hillary’s plan would be a bad thing. Just as our mandatory auto insurance is a bad thing. I have always insured my vehicles and yes I understand about uninsured motorists. But I also know people who are so poor that paying for car insurance means making a choice of letting their children go hungry, or insuring the car, no contest. But they end up with huge fines, loss of DL, vehicle in some states and no job, due to no transport, if they don’t. Which puts them in a no win situation. If they pay for insurance, they starve, if they don’t they end up starving and homeless, what do you do?

          Health insurance on a sliding scale based on income would be good, but there should be some rules for the insurance companies, no jacking up the rates, and trying to be the doctors deciding what is or isn’t needed, if the doctors tell you its needed, then it’s needed, period. Expensive or not, no cancelling policy or denying coverage.

          Medical field, routine surgeries and care need to be priced reasonably. There should be a ceiling for office charges, tests, x-rays, etc.

          Liability insurance for the medical profession should be locked down, right now one of the number one causes for medical care cost increases is due to malpractice insurance rates going skyhigh.

          Also, suits against doctors for malpractice should be reviewed and only the ones where obvious failure to attempt proper care should be prosecuted. Those cases where the doctor tried his best in good faith should not be sued.

          Considering the enormity of the task that reforming our medical care in this country, I don’t see it happening soon, and I don’t see it being quick when it does start.

          Kyrin

          #646872
          Jennifer
          Keymaster

            Now that my husband is inbetween jobs (but actively searching) neither of us have insurance either. We looked into COBRA healthcare and it’ll cost us about $1k per month… that’s more than I make in a month sometimes. o_O I’m scared. I don’t know what we’ll do.

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            #646873
            Rusti
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              I definitely think that at least part of our medical care problems are from just that: our lawsuit happy society. If something doesn’t go the way people want it to, or if they smell an opportunity to perhaps milk the system for some money, they’re going to file a lawsuit.

              Malpractice insurance is so high in Illinois that doctors are fleeing to neighboring states to practice.

              Was it Hillary or Obama that wanted mandatory health insurance. I seem to remember there was a difference. One wanted mandatory and one wanted universal health care. I think there was a difference. I’m not sure I’d compare it to mandatory car insurance though, IMHO. People get so dumb when they get behind the wheel I’d like to know that the one thing that means my livelihood is covered should some idiot run a stop sign, yaknow?

              However, until candidates are not allowed to accept contributions from large corporations, nothing is going to change. Health insurance companies will lobby, pay off and woo any politician to keep things the way they are.

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