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Dragon Master wrote:
OOHH!! sign me up for the ground up cat turds that way I do not have to grind my own!! hehehehe
I figured someone would like that 🙂
keschete wrote:Dragon Master wrote:OOHH!! sign me up for the ground up cat turds that way I do not have to grind my own!! hehehehe
I figured someone would like that 🙂
If I could sell them I’d be richOh good grief; homeopathics for INFANTS?? 😯 Now that is freakin’ terrifying. Most people don’t know the plants well enough to use them safely, and know when to stop dosing that OTC pill that they can buy an endless supply of. Does the general public remember that the other name for belladonna is Deadly Nightshade? OTC nightshade for BABIES? For cryin’ out loud . . . . 👿 👿 👿
Again, homeopathics are not bad in and of themselves; it’s just that few people know how to use them. Koishii probably knows more about homeopathic plants’ applications than I do; I just know their bad effects. I am interested in learning about their good effects, but I don’t know if I’d dare to use them. If it’s toxic to a cow (St. John’s Wort, f’rinstance), I’m not going to take it myself without some super good proof that it’s a good idea.
Kyrin made a good point, too: there really are no regulations on what’s actually in those tablets. A specialist in pharmacology and toxicology once told us that the amount of glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate produced is approximately one-tenth the amount actually sold in the US. What does that mean? Lots and lots of very expensive talcum powder is being ingested by unsuspecting people.
Barrdwing wrote:Oh good grief; homeopathics for INFANTS?? 😯 Now that is freakin’ terrifying. Most people don’t know the plants well enough to use them safely, and know when to stop dosing that OTC pill that they can buy an endless supply of. Does the general public remember that the other name for belladonna is Deadly Nightshade? OTC nightshade for BABIES? For cryin’ out loud . . . . 👿 👿 👿
Again, homeopathics are not bad in and of themselves; it’s just that few people know how to use them. Koishii probably knows more about homeopathic plants’ applications than I do; I just know their bad effects. I am interested in learning about their good effects, but I don’t know if I’d dare to use them. If it’s toxic to a cow (St. John’s Wort, f’rinstance), I’m not going to take it myself without some super good proof that it’s a good idea.
Kyrin made a good point, too: there really are no regulations on what’s actually in those tablets. A specialist in pharmacology and toxicology once told us that the amount of glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate produced is approximately one-tenth the amount actually sold in the US. What does that mean? Lots and lots of very expensive talcum powder is being ingested by unsuspecting people.
there are lots of plants that have good purposes…and some that are better that NEVER get used. Like Colt’s Foot can be used for when you have a cold..but you never see it in the ingrediants on cold medicines.
I have found a few reliable sites, and one thing I have heard by more then one person is eucalyptus for fleas. I am going to do some digging around to find out what herbs are safe for cats(as i have been reading there are ones that are good for dogs but NOT for cats).
Surprisingly, Cat nip can be a flea repelant too! no wonder they roll in that stuff.Regarding diatomaceous earth: It’s very effective as a means of eliminating fleas in the home, but not as good at eliminating them on the pet. The reason for this is that fleas have a larval stage that lives in carpeting, leaf litter, dirt etc. and feeds on both dirt and adult flea poop. The larvae are caterpillar-like, so the diatomaceous earth slices them up very effectively. 😈 But adult fleas are more resistant because of their hard shells. Also, adult fleas don’t spend much time at all on your pet: long enough to feed, and then they hop off. So treating the household with DE rather than your pet does make sense. I’m pretty sure pest control companies have some literature on using DE in the home. It is important to not inhale DE, though. It can cause some nasty damage to the lungs. This makes me a little spooky about using it on a cat, since they groom a lot and breathe while they have their noses next to their fur. 😕
Eucalyptus . . . rats, I can’t recall the specifics. No giant red flags on it in my memory, at least, but my notes are buried in the garage right now. 🙁 Sorry. I do know that eucalyptus has variable effectiveness. Since catnip is being mentioned as a possible flea repellent, maybe it’s just that strong-smelling plant oils can make the fleas hold their little noses. At least catnip is safe, as far as anybody has been able to determine! Hooray for catnip! 🙂
If you run across a suggestion to use garlic, don’t. Garlic and onion will cause a slow anemia in cats. I hear garlic mentioned a lot as a “cure” for fleas and GI parasites; sadly, it isn’t good for cats or dogs, either.
Eucalyptus is poison just like clove oil and garlic, if you’re not careful, can cause anemia. (edit: I just read that sentence where you explained garlic, my bad!) Homeopathic/herbal remedies are rarely used correctly. Folks forget that what’s OK for people might kill your animal.
I think at this juncture just go with what flea control you know for certain is safe. Cats are super sensitive creatures and you don’t want to run the risk of applying something they can easily ingest that could make them very sick.
Frontline spray is 1 to 2 sprays per pound (or five pounds, I don’t remember) it can also be used as an area treatment and if the cat happens to accidentally ingest it, the worst they’ll do is foam at the mouth because it tastes bad. It’s not poison, it’s effective and it’s long lasting.
I like Frontline and Advantage. Their active ingredients are targeted at receptors that only “bugs” (insects, arachnids, ticks, fleas) have in any number. Mammals have so few of these receptors that they are virtually immune to the drugs’ effects.
I like Frontline better than Advantage, having seen both in use, honestly.
They certainly don’t like the taste! I put the spot too low on my cats’ necks once (has to go almost up behind their ears or they can reach it). Both licked at it, both had an absolute fit about it.
I’m afraid I laughed.
I see we’re in the same boat on the homeopathic thing. I’m just sleepy and probably ought to go to bed before I get even more stupid. ;P
One way of getting the info out there about “Bad” OTC stuff is to let your local media outlet(s) know what’s going on, Big Box stores work really fast to pull things when it could result in “Bad PR”!! 😈
Ok so I don’t know how safe Eucalyptus Oil is on cat’s but I can tell you that in no uncertain terms will/would I use it on my Fur-kids!! I use it personally in a bath to relieve sore and aching muscles and joints. I can use one whole cap full(These are tiny bottles with tiny caps)to one really full tub of water, and My mother and I have been using it for decades and have built up a tolerance for it. I advise everyone else to use only a very small drop, since even on me it has actually burned through a layer or 2 of my skin!!! Also Koala’s who are the only animal who eat it exclusively(I think the only animal that eat it at all, other than Humans in Buckley’s Mixture 😯 😯 ) are apparently constantly High off this $#!+, and it’s no wonder they’re such mean little bastards when taken away from it. (The Koala thing I have been told by Several different Aussies under varying circumstances)
keschete wrote:If you need me to post the cat dosage of frontline, I can, or you can pm me. My vet showed me that you can buy one box of the big dog frontline and then I empty it into a blood vial tube and put the stopper on. Then I draw up the dosage for the weight for my cats and dogs with a small syringe.
It is much cheaper and it is the same frontline for both cats and dogs. If you have a helpful vet, he will show you the same thing. My vet knows I rescue and he is very helpful at helping me save money.
[color=red]We use the large size for dogs and divide it also. Just a cautionary note though. Be absolutely sure that you get the product for FLEAS ONLY as the one that treats for tics can kill your cats[/color]
That’s only Advantix, Khat.
Frontline plus, which kills fleas and ticks, is perfectly safe for cats.
the one i heard about eucalyptus was not the oil, but you can take a branch and put it under your bead and that will keep fleas out of the beading.(i know how that sounds, keeping branches under your bead)
Thanx for the info on the DE, I noticed it was pretty fine stuff.
I did read about garlic. I am not sure where, but some sketchy sight was saying to add garlic and onion to a diet..but I found plent others that explained not to do this for cats(in very bold print)
once one month comes around, I’ll get some frontline spray. my local vet sells it i belive.
Many years ago (when the problem with their products killing cats had started, it’s been a long time) I was told that the mob owned Hartz and had the power to prevent any punishment from occuring. I haven’t a clue how truthful it may be, but it’s been YEARS that cats have been dying not just getting sick, and they sure seem to have powerful protection somewhere because nothing has ever been done about it, or at least gotten anywhere at all. Many more cats have been killed than the tainted food that was recalled affected.
(the mob connection was also supposedly how Hartz got a stranglehold on the mass retailer pet chemical market. Stores that carry Hartz are contractually unable to carry competition, except maybe a few self labelled items from- Hartz).
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