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    pipsxlch
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      Thanks to some lovely people buying some things, I’ve been able to buy a figurine on eBay with great sentimental value. It was damaged, so I got it for a good price. It is a fine, thin porcelain fish that is (or is supposed to be) swimming through metal blades of eelgrass. The fish has become separated from the blades, otherwise it is sound. So, does anyone know what would be best to reglue or otherwise affix the fish to the blade of metal? It does look like there was a failed attempt in the past. (glue running down blade; dark blotch on fish that almost looks like metal weld but maybe is from manufacturer’s original affixing?) Time to set doesn’t matter, I just want it done right.

      #925862
      siberakh1
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        E6000 glue works with most things where super glue does not. It does have a very strong odor, so you should have a bit of ventilation while it dries (24-48 hours to be completely dry). You would need to make sure you have a way to keep it still while the glue sets up. It’s pretty inexpensive and I’ve used it for quite a few projects.

        #925867
        pipsxlch
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          Thanks! I saw that at Walmart, but figured I’d ask more knowledgeable people here first. Bracing it for a couple days isn’t a problem, nor is the odor- I can do it outside, I’m in Florida.
          My grandfather- the parent I was closest to- had given me one of these when I was a kid only to have the cats shatter it, so this really does mean a lot thank you.

          Should I try to remove the glue traces from the metal blade first? I don’t dare try to scrape anything off the fish, but I could always paintmatch the grass blade.

          #925874
          John
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            Can you post a picture of it and tell us the size? Without that, my first comment would be that the repair will only be as strong as the weakest glue if you don’t completely clean it. Second comment would be that E6000 may stick to most things, but I don’t think it would do as well as epoxy if there is a gap to fill, or not sufficient surface area.

            #925875
            Melissa
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              To glue really random materials to each-other, E6000 is unmatched.

              As a minor heads up, about 10 years ago, I glued some upholstery leather to some aluminum with E6000, and recently noticed that where it seeped out, it turned yellow/brown. So while I love the stuff and have had no problems with its strength, it may not remain clear long-term.

              I second that a photo, and getting the gluing surfaces as clean as possible, sounds wise.

              #925923
              pipsxlch
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                Thanks for all the replies! Here’s some pics from the auction; the weather isn’t cooperative to take any of my own today. Hopefully tomorrow I can.
                 photo brokegoldie_zps7c95ccea.jpg
                 photo brokegoldy2_zps90b7c691.jpg

                Here’s a pic I found of a sound one.
                 photo goldencarp_zps51f79dc6.jpg

                Edit err those are TINY! I’ll get some more ASAP. I’ll measure it also (it’s out in the shed), but the fish is roughly 7″ from lips to where the tail folds over.

                #925958
                pipsxlch
                Participant

                  Photos with a soda can for size:
                   photo P2180001_zpsca5ba15e.jpg
                   photo P2180002_zps98db5763.jpg
                   photo P2180003_zps2831ef03.jpg
                   photo P2180004_zps39359196.jpg

                  #925962
                  John
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                    Thanks for the pictures. This sure looks like a job for a good epoxy to me. And maybe, because you have dissimilar materials that can expand and shrink at different rates, one that is not too brittle. Is the fish color fired on, or painted? If it is fired on, you should be able to find a solvent that will remove the old glue. However, it did break clean from the metal, so maybe you can just sand or file it down to the original glue on the fish and epoxy it to the metal. Usually it is best to sand metal with coarse sandpaper before gluing and apply the glue to the metal before it re-oxidizes. I think I wouldn’t be afraid to use something like J B Weld epoxy for this as it is reputed to stick well to metal, but I would also make sure it is recommended for glass. You will have to touch it up with paint, no matter what you use, so clear or opaque shouldn’t matter much. I found some J B Weld (which is opaque) in very small tubes, or syringes. It is the old type of epoxy that smells like a Binturong. We use a somewhat flexible clear epoxy from 3M for glass, but it isn’t available in small tubes.

                    #1488451
                    Scathach
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                      Have you tried “Gorilla Glue”? I have had good luck with it on a variety of materials and find that it works better than “Krazy Glue”.

                      Life is beautiful.

                      #1488564
                      Jennifer
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                        Please note that this topic was created a year and a half ago, and it’s entirely possible it’s been resolved by now. 🙂

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                        #1488623
                        Scathach
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                          Please note this topic was created a year and a half ago, and it’s entirely possible it’s been resolved by now. ?

                          I see that. However, when I responded, the topic was in the current list.

                          Life is beautiful.

                          #1488747
                          jmoore
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                            Someone else had commented this month as well, before Scathach. Although I see that other comment is now gone ( ? ) I didn’t think comments could be edited, but, evidently they can be deleted.

                            #1488844
                            Jennifer
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                              The other comment was spam.

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                              #1489206
                              jmoore
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                                Oh – oops! Guess I didn’t pay that much attention to it. Sorry! 🙂

                                #1491339
                                pipsxlch
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                                  Thanks for the responses! Actually haven’t repaired it yet- right after these postings, I went out of town for a few months helping family and packed it away, have yet to dig it back up. Since it’s safe where it is and I don’t have a place to display it, I figured I’d leave it be for the time being. Maybe some new sort of super epoxy will come out on the market before I get to it- has anyone tried those UV-set ones?

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