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May 14, 2010 at 1:12 am #811118purpleturtle wrote:kitsunelady wrote:
http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/product/110010/1-cc-concave-convex-glass-bird-eyes ?
Although, the pupil is quite a big bigger…but that could look cool. >.> *rubs chin* I should order some…
FYI – Those are the convex/concave eyes. You can’t use them on the PYOs because the bulge out too much. I know this because I made the mistake of getting some of my own – they don’t fit in the PYO eye sockets. You have to use the ‘flat-backed’ eyes. The bird section on Van Dyke’s glass eye section has alot of these (it will usually tell you if they are one or the other) The fish glass eyes also have some cool looking eyes that are flat backed as well 😉 .Erk, I knew there was something different about the section I was looking through.
Hmm, the fish eyes are creepy. >.>;… @ the shape of the pupil. Although I do like the colors. D: Do they have paint-your-own eyes somewhere? 6.6 I wonder how Pebeo’s Vitrea 160 would do.
May 14, 2010 at 6:01 pm #811119If I’m reading the description correctly – these eyes that are offered have clear irises…
http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/category/bird-eyes?childcats_collapse=0&arr_filter%5Bbrand%5D%5B%5D=&arr_filter%5Barr_variation_options%5D%5Bcolor%5D%5B%5D=Flint&arr_filter%5Barr_variation_options%5D%5Bstyle%5D%5B%5D=&arr_filter%5Barr_variation_options%5D%5Bsize%5D%5B%5D=&sort_order=&setPerPage=12
http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/category/flint
I was considering getting some to make my own eyes – but I’m not sure what kind of paints to use that would be color-fast and archival.On a side-note, it would be cool to see if Windstone decides to offer the metallic eyes for the PYOs. Love ro see gold, copper and silver eyes offered 😉 .
May 14, 2010 at 6:13 pm #811120From what I can gather, taxidermy eyes are painted with acrylics. The problem with acrylics on windstone eyes is that the glue will strip the paint off over time. I am not sure how taxidermist deal with this issue. The one pair of eyes I bought had a plastic backing to protect the paint.
May 14, 2010 at 6:49 pm #811121Pam Thompson wrote:From what I can gather, taxidermy eyes are painted with acrylics. The problem with acrylics on windstone eyes is that the glue will strip the paint off over time. I am not sure how taxidermist deal with this issue. The one pair of eyes I bought had a plastic backing to protect the paint.
I wonder if it’s a type of enamel? A paint you have to cure with heat. That way it fuses to the glass – I’m just guessing :scratch:
May 14, 2010 at 7:33 pm #811122purpleturtle wrote:Pam Thompson wrote:From what I can gather, taxidermy eyes are painted with acrylics. The problem with acrylics on windstone eyes is that the glue will strip the paint off over time. I am not sure how taxidermist deal with this issue. The one pair of eyes I bought had a plastic backing to protect the paint.
I wonder if it’s a type of enamel? A paint you have to cure with heat. That way it fuses to the glass – I’m just guessing :scratch:
That’s what you do with Pebeo’s Vitrea 160. =D Bake it and it is supposedly permanent thereafter. I dunno how it would take glue, though…maybe if you used an archival type glue. Acid-free or whatever? I have some like that, but it was for bookbinding. >.>…
May 14, 2010 at 7:40 pm #811123Or maybe just some plan Elemers white glue? Or is that considered ‘acid-free’ to start with :scratch: ? I know you don’t need anything as strong as super or crazy glue anyways to insert the eyes . I just use regular Tacky glue for gluing in the normal PYO eyes myself 😉 .
May 15, 2010 at 2:38 am #811124Pam Thompson wrote:From what I can gather, taxidermy eyes are painted with acrylics. The problem with acrylics on windstone eyes is that the glue will strip the paint off over time. I am not sure how taxidermist deal with this issue. The one pair of eyes I bought had a plastic backing to protect the paint.
Simple– we don’t use glue to hold eyes in Taxidermy. 🙂
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Simple– we don’t use glue to hold eyes in Taxidermy. 🙂
Don’t the eyes pop right into the fake sockets and are held there simply by the tight fit?
May 15, 2010 at 4:31 pm #811126purpleturtle wrote:Pam Thompson wrote:From what I can gather, taxidermy eyes are painted with acrylics. The problem with acrylics on windstone eyes is that the glue will strip the paint off over time. I am not sure how taxidermist deal with this issue. The one pair of eyes I bought had a plastic backing to protect the paint.
I wonder if it’s a type of enamel? A paint you have to cure with heat. That way it fuses to the glass – I’m just guessing :scratch:
We use the kind of glass paint that fuses to the glass, but this archival method is very limited in color range. 😡 Taxidermy eyes are way too cool looking to be all fused enamel, some , like fish eyes, must be painted with metallic lacquer. I’m just guessing, I don’t know for sure!
May 15, 2010 at 4:34 pm #811127Quote:Don’t the eyes pop right into the fake sockets and are held there simply by the tight fit?
I have mounts where the eyes are sculpted into the socket with clay, but that is probably an old fashioned way to do it.
May 15, 2010 at 7:14 pm #811128Melody, I found out that taxidermy eyes, the custom-made ones anyway, are just painted with regular paint. Acrylic, pastel, oil, pencils, etc.
http://www.knuthart.com/joshua/blog/?p=40
Eyes are set into the mount using clay or epoxy. From what I can gather, nothing ever comes into contact with the painted back, or if it does, its a totally-non shrinking material. The really fancy hand-made eyes don’t even have paint on the back.
http://www.knuthart.com/joshua/blog/?p=31May 15, 2010 at 8:00 pm #811129So do we have an ETA for these puppies? *rubs hands together*
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May 15, 2010 at 9:31 pm #811131Ooooo! I like those 😀 !
May 15, 2010 at 10:09 pm #811132Pam Thompson wrote:Melody, I found out that taxidermy eyes, the custom-made ones anyway, are just painted with regular paint. Acrylic, pastel, oil, pencils, etc.
http://www.knuthart.com/joshua/blog/?p=40
Eyes are set into the mount using clay or epoxy. From what I can gather, nothing ever comes into contact with the painted back, or if it does, its a totally-non shrinking material. The really fancy hand-made eyes don’t even have paint on the back.
http://www.knuthart.com/joshua/blog/?p=31Wow. :0 @ that eye tutorial
Makes me want to try it out! 😀
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