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January 14, 2007 at 12:26 am #526476SPark wrote:
There probably is. Just like dog foods, most cat foods you see in the grocery store aren’t really terribly good for you cat. Mine get Science Diet, or will once I get this new cat switched over. She’d been eating Alley Cat, and I got some from the gal who’d been feeding her when I picked her up. (It’s best to take time to switch food, mixing the new brand gradually with the old, so that the change doesn’t upset the cat’s stomach as much.)
Well, at least Science Diet is better than Alley Cat. But, Science Diet isn’t all that great either. I used to tell people this,
The first ingredient should be meat. Like chicken, salmon, lamb, turkey. The next ingreadient should either be another meat or your main grain ie rice or barley. Brown rice is better than white. Oatmeal is great. There should be lots of meat though, they are carnivors. Vegtables are great but not in abundance. My cats get no corn whatsoever. I find that corn makes them sick. But corn is alright if it is ground or if its meal. (Honestly it is a filler) Berrys are great thing to have in the food as well.
A good book to read is “Food Pets Die For” and I can’t remember the exact title but it was something like “Is Your Cat Too Fat?” I can’t remember publishers or Authors though. I’m very forgetfull.January 14, 2007 at 7:39 am #526477Romeodanny wrote:SPark wrote:There probably is. Just like dog foods, most cat foods you see in the grocery store aren’t really terribly good for you cat. Mine get Science Diet, or will once I get this new cat switched over. She’d been eating Alley Cat, and I got some from the gal who’d been feeding her when I picked her up. (It’s best to take time to switch food, mixing the new brand gradually with the old, so that the change doesn’t upset the cat’s stomach as much.)
Well, at least Science Diet is better than Alley Cat. But, Science Diet isn’t all that great either. I used to tell people this,
The first ingredient should be meat. Like chicken, salmon, lamb, turkey. The next ingreadient should either be another meat or your main grain ie rice or barley. Brown rice is better than white. Oatmeal is great. There should be lots of meat though, they are carnivors. Vegtables are great but not in abundance. My cats get no corn whatsoever. I find that corn makes them sick. But corn is alright if it is ground or if its meal. (Honestly it is a filler) Berrys are great thing to have in the food as well.
A good book to read is “Food Pets Die For” and I can’t remember the exact title but it was something like “Is Your Cat Too Fat?” I can’t remember publishers or Authors though. I’m very forgetfull.I feed science diet because I have too, had he not been raised for 6 years on whiskas, he would never have gotten crystals I am sure, but now the damage is done, if he eats anything other than the stuff for crystal control he gets sick again. But if we ever have another cat it will not be fed crap food.
January 14, 2007 at 7:42 am #526478My oldest male had crystals in his bladder so now all 4 are on the urinary track formula food to make sure none of them have to go thru what he had to
January 14, 2007 at 2:21 pm #526479My vet said there are 3 or 4 different types of crystals that can form. Kamikaze is on Science Diet c/d, has been for years, and every 6 months or so, he starts getting the crystals again. So it may not be the food. All of my cats are on the c/d, because it’s just easier to feed them all the same thing, but neither of my girls have issues. From what my vet was telling me, some studies have been done that relate the age of neutering to the formation of crystals, but there hasn’t been a definitive result in the studies. Personally, it wouldn’t surprise me a bit, since Kami was neutered at 6 weeks by the shelter (and that’s a whole ‘nother story). My vet and I are exploring other foods, but we haven’t had a chance to compare notes yet…
January 14, 2007 at 8:12 pm #526480Kovu was neutered at 6 weeks also and he got the crystals. Neither Simba,Kiara and Nala have had any problem. They all got fixed much later in life like about 6 months or so. Since I have gotten them all on the unrinary track food they have all been fine. I wonder if it has to do with getting fixed at 6 weeks
January 14, 2007 at 8:59 pm #526481I think it’s more of an issue for boys than girls, from what my vet has said…
January 14, 2007 at 9:00 pm #526482I just switched their food completely to try and make sure it did not happen again to any of them
January 15, 2007 at 4:19 am #526483I’ve never had to deal with crystals. None of my cats have ever had crystals. I hope I never have to deal with it. I’ve had 6 males and 3 females. You have to watch the males. They are supposed to get crystals more than females. So males need more water, giving them a teaspoon of canned food with the kibble helps.
Only my last 5 cats have been fed high quality food. Right now my boys eat better food than I do. I feed them Prairie (Nature’s Variety) kibble and Wellness canned food. I’ve tried cooking for them. That didn’t go over very well, they turned thier noses up, and it was so very expensive.January 15, 2007 at 7:31 am #526484Casper was neutered at about 7 months, when he peed on hubbys pillow one day, neuter the next. It is more common for neutered male cats, but having to fed him special food is so much better thn living with an unneutered cat.
January 15, 2007 at 8:15 am #526485ruffian wrote:Casper was neutered at about 7 months, when he peed on hubbys pillow one day, neuter the next. It is more common for neutered male cats, but having to fed him special food is so much better thn living with an unneutered cat.
Oh gosh, my male cat LOVES to go into my room and urinate on my new rug or on my bed, so if I’m gone, I always close my door. The stench is AWEFUL, and even after you run the soiled garmet through the wash and dry, it STILL smells. He’s not neutered yet because we found him as a baby and just haven’t, but as soon as I have more money again, hes taking a trip to the vet. I’m hoping it will curb his desire to mark his territory, and cut back on the odor as well.
And also, my mother and I went to visit the dog on Saturday. Her name is Roxie, she’s very sweet, seems gentle natured; she came up to me and offered me her paw to shake. She can even do tricks (roll over, sit, stay, shake) and offered her owner a kiss on the ear when asked for one. The people do indeed breed huskies, but it didn’t seem like they ever had more than 1 litter of pups at a time. The lady is a high school art teacher and her husband works from home. They seemed to really love their dogs, and have done a good job training the ones that are trained (their young male dog seems to still need an etiquite class hehe) My mother is not 100% sold on “a big dog”, but Roxie is, I’d consider, a “mid-sized” dog, and she didn’t get overly excited, even with the privellage of being inside AND two new people to meet. She calmly came over, tail wagging and sniffed and licked. I’m hoping to bring Roxie home next week and prove that big dogs and houses can live together in harmony. I haven’t been able to stop thinking about her since Saturday!
January 15, 2007 at 10:01 am #526486That is great! I have two big dogs in the house and it totally depends on the temperment of the dog. Sounds like you should be fine, esp since she is older. Most older dogs are calmer.
January 15, 2007 at 2:52 pm #526487Wolfen, for the cat pee smell… Nature’s Miracle… I swear by that stuff! Plus it gets stains out of the carpet too. Neutering won’t necessarily decrease the smell (I think that’s mostly the food he eats, and just the cat), but it should help with the marking issue… And congrats on the doggie!!
January 15, 2007 at 9:40 pm #526488Do you have a male Wolfen? Neutering will definatly help. But, you need to get everything that he has sprayed (marked) and use something like “Get the odor out” or “Nok Out” these will help with washable things. Nature’s Miracle will work for the carpet. You have to get it all out. Otherwise he will probably keep peeing there. Good luck. You’ll need it.
I think the dog will be a great addition to your family. Hopefully she’ll get along with your cats.January 16, 2007 at 3:41 am #526489nessiemom wrote:Wolfen, for the cat pee smell… Nature’s Miracle… I swear by that stuff! Plus it gets stains out of the carpet too. Neutering won’t necessarily decrease the smell (I think that’s mostly the food he eats, and just the cat), but it should help with the marking issue… And congrats on the doggie!!
Hum, I’m guessing you’ve never had a tom or been around a tom. Tom urine is the worst smell. Very strong. Takes alot to get rid of it. Trust me, it dosen’t matter what you feed a tom the urine smell will be very strong. I’ll neuter and spay all my animals, I can’t stand females in heat, and I can’t stand dogs and toms marking everything. Nasty.
Oh but, one thing to help your tom from marking. Cats hate the sound of urine hitting tin foil. If there is a spot that your cat persists in spraying put tinfoil on that spot. Hopefully Wolfen, after your male is neutered, (might take about a week, maybe longer) he’ll stop getting the urge to mark. Some cats never stop.
January 16, 2007 at 7:52 pm #526490Yep some cats get used to the habit, the sooner you can get him neutered the better. It can take a few months for the hormones to leave their systems, then hopefully he will stop marking, but if it has become habit he may not stop. Casper was neutered after only marking one thing, and he did stop, until I moved in, he picked one thing I brought in and marked it, my bathroom carpet, so it had to go to the garbage, he would not stop peeing on it, like he was mad i moveed in.
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