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Dragon Master wrote:
OOH I will get in so much trouble if I touch that comment
😆 I bet you would.
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Makeing your own dog food:
1) do not tell the vet few vets sanction it
2) it is called BARF diet, good BARF diets are fed RAW, because the nutrience are lost in the cooking, but cooked hamburger is easier to digest
2) online you can find some great resources for BARF diets, I used to feed it myself, still feed raw bones for their teeth
3) you can also buy commercial BARF diets from some feed stores/pet supply stores
4 BARF- Bones And Raw Food or Biologially Appropriate Raw Food
The dog food I feed is called BARK diet http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/orijen/ I love this dog food.
Dragon Master wrote:for some reason a BARF diet does not sound good to me
If done properly it can do wonderful things for some dogs, like those with huge allergies, but it takes alot of work, and you have to be very diligent about your dog. I personally like the commercial made BARF diets better. I do still stand by raw bones for chewing, mine get raw marrow bones, chicken and turkey necks, some livers and gizzards, chicken skin, bones fron chicken when I de-bone it, and the same with beef, and occastionally pork. In the summer they get frozen bones too. Marrow bones that are cleaned out filled with cheese whiz, or peanut butter can kkep a dog occupied for hours.
ruffian wrote:Makeing your own dog food:
1) do not tell the vet few vets sanction it
Very true. The reasons vets don’t sanction it is that as Ruffian said it takes a lot of work and most people don’t do it correctly. There have been several case reports of dogs, cats and owners who got salmonella from improperly handled meat – some of the pets died. Also, if there are parasites in the meat they are not killed. And you have to give correct supplements for calcium and phosphorus levels. Not all dogs will chew bones and some owners don’t like to give bones. Finally, last but not least, I believe it was the FDA who sent a notice to vets asking that they discourage raw meat diet in case there is an epidemic of bird flu in the US. Cases in dogs and cats in other countries were in animals that ate infected birds. Just my 2 cents.
ddvm wrote:ruffian wrote:Makeing your own dog food:
1) do not tell the vet few vets sanction it
Very true. The reasons vets don’t sanction it is that as Ruffian said it takes a lot of work and most people don’t do it correctly. There have been several case reports of dogs, cats and owners who got salmonella from improperly handled meat – some of the pets died. Also, if there are parasites in the meat they are not killed. And you have to give correct supplements for calcium and phosphorus levels. Not all dogs will chew bones and some owners don’t like to give bones. Finally, last but not least, I believe it was the FDA who sent a notice to vets asking that they discourage raw meat diet in case there is an epidemic of bird flu in the US. Cases in dogs and cats in other countries were in animals that ate infected birds. Just my 2 cents.
All very true, which is why I stated that I prefer the use of the commercially prepared brands of BARF diets.
And a link to the dog food I highly recommend.
I thought you where not supposed to give dogs chicken bones?? I have heard the are so small they break easily and can choke the dog
Dragon Master wrote:I thought you where not supposed to give dogs chicken bones?? I have heard the are so small they break easily and can choke the dog
That’s actually both right and wrong, it’s cooked chicken bones that are dangerous because they splinter into needle-like shards, raw bones are fine and are digested very easily. When you thing about it, it actually makes sense, after all who hasn’t heard of a fox or a coyote getting into a chicken coop…
I’m one of those who feed a commercial BARF diet. I get it pre-mixed and frozen into 1 cup portions and I just defrost what I need every day. My dog is crazy about it! And to think that the first time I offered her raw meat she was sniffing at it and looking at me like “what am I supposed to do with that?” 😆
For those interested in this: http://www.aa2000.qc.ca/AA2000.html
WolfenMachine wrote:Dragon Master wrote:I agree that the Male Lions do not do much. I would like to know how they got labeled as the King of the forest??
Because he’s learned to make the woman do all the work! All the other animals admire his wit and cunning, thereby declaring him king lol
😆 😆 😆
mimitrek wrote:WolfenMachine wrote:Dragon Master wrote:I agree that the Male Lions do not do much. I would like to know how they got labeled as the King of the forest??
Because he’s learned to make the woman do all the work! All the other animals admire his wit and cunning, thereby declaring him king lol
😆 😆 😆
Well it used to be that way in the human world too and now look at where we are. Maybe things will change eventually
Dragon Master wrote:mimitrek wrote:WolfenMachine wrote:Dragon Master wrote:I agree that the Male Lions do not do much. I would like to know how they got labeled as the King of the forest??
Because he’s learned to make the woman do all the work! All the other animals admire his wit and cunning, thereby declaring him king lol
😆 😆 😆
Well it used to be that way in the human world too and now look at where we are. Maybe things will change eventually
Well, DM, I admire your optimism 😆
LIH and Ruff, thanks for the info on the BARF diets…I’ve never heard of that, but will definatly look into it.
Also,Ruffian- the “Grade your dog food” bit…do you know if there’s a cat food version? I think my precious Tabby is allrgic to something in her food as well.
WolfenMachine wrote:LIH and Ruff, thanks for the info on the BARF diets…I’ve never heard of that, but will definatly look into it.
Also,Ruffian- the “Grade your dog food” bit…do you know if there’s a cat food version? I think my precious Tabby is allrgic to something in her food as well.
I dont right off hand, but will post the question to a couple of pet forums I belong too, and see what they come up with.
There probably is. Just like dog foods, most cat foods you see in the grocery store aren’t really terribly good for you cat. Mine get Science Diet, or will once I get this new cat switched over. She’d been eating Alley Cat, and I got some from the gal who’d been feeding her when I picked her up. (It’s best to take time to switch food, mixing the new brand gradually with the old, so that the change doesn’t upset the cat’s stomach as much.)
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