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What is wrong with most commercial dog diets is the ingredients, canines do not get nutritional suppliment from gains so why is it in their food? What a dog does not use for nutrience comes out the other end. The more junk that goes in the more that comes out. Corn is one of the most common things for dogs to be allergic too, now go to the grocery store and look for a dog food with out it. You probably will not find one. Alot of food try to decieve by splitting the corn up in to corn meal, corn flour, corn meal, and putting chicken or lamb as the first ingrediant, but if you add up the corn it would out weigh the meat. The food I feed is made up of 70% vet inspected meat, and 30% veggie matter, no grains at all. No by products, just meat, by products are the things they will not even use to make hotdogs-bones, hooves, ears, lips and hide. Some good high quality food will make your dog poop less, and feel better.
Use this test with your dog food, how does it rate?
Rating Your Current Kibble~
Want to rate your dog’s current food? This kibble rating system has been sent around some. The original author is Fredalina and I hear she would like to make some changes to it, but as it stands now it easily can show good from bad. Although I would love to see a revised edition reflecting higher scores for fewer grains if she finds the time.How to grade your dog’s food:
Start with a grade of 100:1) For every listing of “by-product”, subtract 10 points
2) For every non-specific animal source (“meat” or “poultry”, meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract 10 points
3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points
4) For every grain “mill run” or non-specific grain source, subtract 5 points
5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (i.e. “ground brown rice”, “brewer’s rice”, “rice flour” are all the same grain), subtract 5 points
6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points
7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points
8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3points
9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points
10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 2 points
11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points
12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points
13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog isn’t allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points
14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog isn’t allergic to beef), subtract 1 point
15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point
Extra Credit:
1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points
2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist, add 5 points
3) If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points
4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points
5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points
6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points
7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2 points
If the food contains barley, add 2 points
9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points
10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point
11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point
12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than the first one; count “chicken” and “chicken meal” as only one protein source, but “chicken” and “” as 2 different sources), add 1 point
13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point
14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are pesticide-free, add 1 point
94-100+ = A
86-93 = B
78-85 = C
70-77 = D
69 = FThis is a list of some foods to give you an idea on how they score. I did not add them up, so if the math is not correct, I was not responsible, though I appreciate having the list to use.
Eagle Pack Holistic: 119 A +
Wellness Super5Mix Chicken: 117 A+
Solid Gold Bison-123 points A+
Eagle Pack Natural: 94 A
Canidae-119 points A+
Natural Balance Duck and Potato-114 points A+
Eagle Pack Large and Giant Breed Puppy: 94 A
Timberwolf Organics Lamb and Venison-136 points A+
Innova-117 points A+
Eagle Pack Holistic Chicken-114 points A+
Chicken soup-113 points A+
Flint River Ranch: 92 (non-specific fat source) B
Eukanuba Natural Lamb and Rice-87 points B
Nutro Natural choice Lamb and Rice-85 points C
Nutro Chicken, Rice, & Oatmeal: 85 (non-specific fat source) C
Eukanuba Large Breed Adult: 83 C
Iams Large Breed: 83 C
Iams Lamb Meal and Rice-74 points D
Science Diet chicken adult maintainance-45 points F
Bil-Jac select-37 points F
Science Diet Large Breed: 68 F
Pro Plan All Breed: 68 F
Pedigree Complete Nutrition: 42 F
Pedigree Adult Complete-14 points F
Ol Roy-9 points F
Purina Beneful- 17 points FI hope someone uses this. LOL, its long.
Oh and why did I fond all this out? My girl Ruffian is allergic to Corn, she has chewed her hair out, chewed her skin raw, gotten yeast infections in her ears and licked her paws raw, all from corn.
Why is Science Diet so recommended by vets, then? It got an F! I guess Iams Large Breed is not so bad. Its the only one we have here with a decent grade. We have the Nutro stuff here, too, but that scored less.
Because hill’s the makers of science diet pay for the nutrition course that vets take, which is a few hours long. Plus they got a good return to sell the crap.
And I have tried the vet hypo-allergenic crap foods and she still had reactions. They have one that has “modified corn” that is not supposed to cause a reaction. Would it not just be easier to remove the corn from the food? Besides the fact that they all smell very baddly. Her coat was in very poor condition, she had dry flakey skin, and she never wanted to move, buut the vet told me she wasnt having a reaction to the food, so what was it then?
ruffian wrote:Because hill’s the makers of science diet pay for the nutrition course that vets take, which is a few hours long. Plus they got a good return to sell the crap.
Well, thats some shady crap. When I rule the world, this will be one of the things I squash.
skigod377 wrote:ruffian wrote:Because hill’s the makers of science diet pay for the nutrition course that vets take, which is a few hours long. Plus they got a good return to sell the crap.
Well, thats some shady crap. When I rule the world, this will be one of the things I squash.
LOL, okay and shut down all the puppy mills, and BYB breeders, and make people actually be responsible for their anumals.
hehehehe- I try to be as upfront about myself as I can- it’s ashame not everyone appreciates my antics 😳
skigod377 wrote:Why is Science Diet so recommended by vets, then? It got an F!
I can’t comment on that, but our family dog was fed both Science Diet and Iams, and she was healthy and beautiful her whole life.
Iams wasn’t a bad food. It was actually a pretty good food. But, when Proctor and Gamble bought it, well lets just say it became a “cheap” pricy food. Now you pay more for the name, just like the vet brands. As a dog groomer, I saw the difference in the dogs coats, and the skin, and the breath not to long after the sale. Most of the dogs refused to actually eat it after. But, it all depends on the dog. Some dogs can eat the cheap food all thier lives and not have a problem. Before they forced dog food companys to list ingrediants my dog was fed Purina Dog Chow. He was a healthy, skinny, beautiful cocker spaniel. Maybe I’ll post a picture of him sometime.
I recently switched from Iams Large Breed because I felt that my dogs were not getting enough from it- meaning I felt they were too thin (Lady has NEVER put on weight it seems) and no amount of regular diet made them fatten up (let me also pre-empt this by saying they were tested for worms and had none, my dogs do not ever attack their feedbowls, they eat when they get hungry and they are also all long-haired and live in TX so appetite diminishes in summer)
I DID switch them to Pedigree Large Breed a few months ago and their coats are so much shinier and softer than on the Iams. Lady even put on some modest weight (may be the winter thing)
Thanks for the guide. I am think I am going to try a different brand. My dogs have been having skin problems and One of my dogs seems to have a digestive problem as well (causing her end result to not be normal), so maybe if I ween them off of Iams to a different dog food they will fell better. Other than those problems they are healthy.
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