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January 13, 2010 at 7:45 pm #500047January 13, 2010 at 7:45 pm #802099
I was rearranging stuff around…as I do every so often…and I noticed somthing really odd about the male dragons I have. One is significantly shorter than the others. I have three males….one that’s an old green, the type without the felt pad…then a repaint of a broken peacock male I’d gotten forever ago..and a peacock male that had some lovely shading, darker than most I’ve seen. I wanted to move my dark peacock male out and have him swap places with the old green…but the old green wouldnt fit! So….I then tried it with the repaint…also the same issue! For some reason the dark peacock male i have is smaller, by several milimeters…than the other males I own. I took some pictures…to show that the two others I have are consistent in size..where this one is not.
Um…how are they so different in size? mold shrinkage perhaps? do molds really shrink that much? or was there a different prototype in a smaller size?
January 13, 2010 at 8:25 pm #802100purplecat wrote:I was rearranging stuff around…as I do every so often…and I noticed somthing really odd about the male dragons I have. One is significantly shorter than the others. I have three males….one that’s an old green, the type without the felt pad…then a repaint of a broken peacock male I’d gotten forever ago..and a peacock male that had some lovely shading, darker than most I’ve seen. I wanted to move my dark peacock male out and have him swap places with the old green…but the old green wouldnt fit! So….I then tried it with the repaint…also the same issue! For some reason the dark peacock male i have is smaller, by several milimeters…than the other males I own. I took some pictures…to show that the two others I have are consistent in size..where this one is not.
Um…how are they so different in size? mold shrinkage perhaps? do molds really shrink that much? or was there a different prototype in a smaller size?Wow, that is a stumper! I have never noticed that there was any difference in size!
No, the early ones should be about the same size as later ones, though here are early versions and later versions of the sculpture which possibly would differ on the length of the horn and scale points on the back, but they shouldn’t vary in height as much as the photo shows!
Do other dimensions on the dragons show the same relative difference in size? -such as the distance between the eyes? That would indicate shrinkage, or , though unlikely, that the small dragon is a knock off,( if it has the correct pad, then that isn’t the case. It looks real to me.)Molds do shrink like crazy, but I can’t imagine how the shrinkage could possibly be that dramatic and produce a piece that isn’t deformed. The rigid plaster “carriers” that we use to hold the rubber molds wouldn’t fit properly if there was that much difference!
This is a big mystery!!
Has anybody else noticed a difference in heights on their males dragons?
The pad-less male dragon I’ve got here is exactly 9″ tall to the back horn point.Oh another question: Does your short dragon look as if the mold was poured fully? it is possible the liquid gypsum didn’t completely fill up to the top(which would be the bottom of the dragon ) the mold when it was made. Are the bottoms of the claws on his hind legs there, or cut off?
January 13, 2010 at 8:39 pm #802101I’ll do some more detailed measurements…but the peacock male is indeed authentic, he has all the correct pads and markings. He was from a fully poured mold, I did check that…and the distance from the back toenail tip to the bottom of the piece is the same as the others I have.
I’m thoroughly confused about it….his detail and depth of scale lines are just like the others too….I thought initially he might have been a 3rd generation prototype or something like that…where a prototype is made off of a casting..then done again….it would gradually decrease the size of the castings…however it would also lessen the depth of the detail…and that’s not the case here. His sculpt lines along his horns and other areas of his body are very clear and crisp, and the appropriate depth. He’s actually a very lovely casting, and I cant find any flaws that might indicate why he’s smaller.
Edit: ah geez….I’m a doofus…doing a prototype of a casting then another and another would make them bigger..not smaller……sorry, I get stuff like that swapped around mentally sometimes.
It’s not something I would have noticed until I tried putting one of the others in a spot they simply wouldnt fit!
January 13, 2010 at 10:19 pm #802102curiouser and curiouser
January 13, 2010 at 11:22 pm #802103That male really has me stumped….I just finished measuring several points on him…and every measurement I do seems to say he’s overall smaller…yet still proportioned correctly.
He’s a half centimeter shorter to the tip of his crest in height……
From the inner point of the eye to eye….half centimeter shorter…
width of base at widest point….also a half centimeter shorter.
tape held measuring across his front….from front leg elbow scale to other front leg elbow scale….same thing.
I’m befuddled.
I was expecting the numbers to be different…but not exact…not consistent. I thought for sure you had it nailed…there was probably warping in the mold, and his proportions were off somehow, causing a lack in height. Now I’m more confused than i was to start with…..
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