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October 7, 2010 at 5:22 pm #501714October 7, 2010 at 5:22 pm #828406
Recently I got an old black flapcat on ebay for pretty cheap. When it came in, as I was touching him, he felt strange. It was like my fingers were sticking to his paint in one part. I kept touching the paint, and it seemed to have an air bubble under it…and then it cracked and started flaking off. O.O He was VERY very dusty…like the dust was embedded in him. I asked the seller if he had set near water or a sunny window and she said no. Ive already got him mostly patched up again. Might there be a reason why the paint would do this?
October 7, 2010 at 5:35 pm #828407oh wow….that’s some major damage! 😮 😮 😮 😮 Poor flapkitty!
October 7, 2010 at 5:52 pm #828408Oh wow! that kitty looks in need of an entire repaint job!
October 7, 2010 at 5:54 pm #828409Oh weird! I’ve never seen it come off in sheets like that. Looks like a sunburn that was peeling.
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Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry DragonsOctober 7, 2010 at 5:57 pm #828410WolfenMachine wrote:[=#BF4080]Recently I got an old black flapcat on ebay for pretty cheap. When it came in, as I was touching him, he felt strange. It was like my fingers were sticking to his paint in one part. I kept touching the paint, and it seemed to have an air bubble under it…and then it cracked and started flaking off. O.O He was VERY very dusty…like the dust was embedded in him. I asked the seller if he had set near water or a sunny window and she said no. Ive already got him mostly patched up again. Might there be a reason why the paint would do this?
I thought I had seen everything that can happen to a Windstone… I have NEVER seen that before!
Is it possible that this cat was refinished with a clear oil based sealer over his paint? I suspect this because you say that the dust seemed to be sealed into his finish. The “bubble” feel makes me suspect this also.
We have a griffin here that was recently returned with a small patch of paint missing on her chest that looks similar, but there was brown gunk on the griffin too, so I assumed something spilled on her and the owner tried to wipe it off with a solvent, or something.The only thing I know of that would cause that is extreme silicone contamination. If that is the problem, it is our fault and happened in the casting process, but we haven’t had this problem since we first started. Even then, I have never seen anything this extensive! The silicone problems we have had were usually small fingerprint sized spots.
If it is is silicone, the new paint you put on won’t stick either. It would be interesting to test it ( in a little hidden spot) after it is perfectly dry and see if it comes off also.This is really-really weird- I’d love to know what caused this! (and I wish I knew a way to strip paint off of stuff this cleanly!)
October 7, 2010 at 6:22 pm #828411Yea me too, that’s the closest thing I’ve seen to a Flap Cat PYO.
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Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry DragonsOctober 7, 2010 at 7:18 pm #828412oooh! looks like you’ll have your own pyo!
October 8, 2010 at 4:16 am #828413At the old shop there was a silicone contaminated black pegasus test paint. All the paint on its shoulders was peeled off clean just like that.
October 8, 2010 at 6:23 am #828414I actually had something similar happen to one I was fixing, I cleaned off the piece and repainted black on the area I fixed and blended into the other black and let it dry, when I went back to put sealer on it, the old paint peeled off, but the new paint stayed
I had to go in and take off a lot of paint to get it all fixed, but it wasn’t anything like that flap cat.. 😮
October 8, 2010 at 5:55 pm #828415😮 😮 😮
Wow. The only time I can say Iv’e seen paint do anything like that is when it’s on plastic. I’m glad you’ve gotten him patched up.October 9, 2010 at 2:35 pm #828416Melody wrote:I thought I had seen everything that can happen to a Windstone… I have NEVER seen that before!
Is it possible that this cat was refinished with a clear oil based sealer over his paint? I suspect this because you say that the dust seemed to be sealed into his finish. The “bubble” feel makes me suspect this also.
We have a griffin here that was recently returned with a small patch of paint missing on her chest that looks similar, but there was brown gunk on the griffin too, so I assumed something spilled on her and the owner tried to wipe it off with a solvent, or something.The only thing I know of that would cause that is extreme silicone contamination. If that is the problem, it is our fault and happened in the casting process, but we haven’t had this problem since we first started. Even then, I have never seen anything this extensive! The silicone problems we have had were usually small fingerprint sized spots.
If it is is silicone, the new paint you put on won’t stick either. It would be interesting to test it ( in a little hidden spot) after it is perfectly dry and see if it comes off also.This is really-really weird- I’d love to know what caused this! (and I wish I knew a way to strip paint off of stuff this cleanly!)
Personally I suspect silicone contamination; if an oil based sealer was applied and then consequently lifted the paint, wouldn’t it at least ‘stain’ the gypsum underneath with the paint color? Even when intentionally removing acrylic paint from a Windstone, I’ve noticed that the gypsum never again looks ‘pure’ and clean again and always shows some staining. Whereas silicone contamination would form a barrier between the gypsum and the paint, preventing staining? Like non-stick. What do you think?
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My art: featherdust.comOctober 12, 2010 at 9:11 pm #828417Yeah, I think that the silicone oil would permeate the gypsum and prevent any plasticiser and pigmented paint from soaking in.( I think dye would still stain it though) Silicone oil would also probably prevent any future paint from sticking because silicone doesn’t go away by itself. If the new paint won’t stick either, that would be a pretty sure indicator of silicone contamination.
October 12, 2010 at 9:16 pm #828418Pam Thompson wrote:At the old shop there was a silicone contaminated black pegasus test paint. All the paint on its shoulders was peeled off clean just like that.
Huh. I didn’t see the Pegasus, but I know silicone can cause this! The loose “bubble” feel is odd though. Did you touch the painted Pegasus before the paint came off? I am curious if it felt weird.
October 12, 2010 at 10:52 pm #828419You saw it because I asked you about it and you told me what was happening.
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