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  • #859873
    chrisherself
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      Your heart was absolutely, 100% in the right place, and the fact that you’re so upset about this just proves that more. <3 Your intentions were fine, Drag0n. And I agree with what's being said–you're not financially or emotionally responsible for this.

      The kids will be fine, too; it's ok to deal with loss. Losing a pet is a much kinder way to learn how to grieve than losing, say, a brother. Don't beat yourself up.

      I think at this point, the only parties that should be involved in the discussions are the Cat Lady, the Family, and the Vet. The Family's beef is with the Cat Lady, not you. The Cat Lady's beef is with the Family/Vet's decision to euthanize, not you. (And yah–Cat Lady has no right to be upset if she was trying to rehome her kittens without bothering to vet check them.)

      Please step out of the situation if you can and let the majorly involved parties come to an agreement. You have all of our support!! Please imagine a big group hug from us when you're feeling upset over it.

      #859879
      drag0nfeathers
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        I know and all you guys bring up very valid points I have basically thought of today. Out of all thing scenarios that could have played out this was the absolute worst thing that could have happened. I just can’t help but feel if I never got involved, the kittens would still be alive…

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        #859881

        But the fact is that they tested positive for Felv. So ANY responsible person who adopted them would have taken them to a vet and found that out. And the odds are high they would have been euthanized, if not then probably when they got symptomatic. It is really, really sad but those kittens were doomed to have short lives. A lot of people will disagree with the decision to euthanize them now but at least the kittens didn’t suffer. Trust me when I say it isn’t easy for a vet to have to euthanize a couple of cute kittens but they do it because they know they are preventing future suffering and they are preventing spread of the disease. So Drag0n try to think about the fact that the kittens aren’t suffering and that other cats aren’t being exposed to a horrible disease.

        And tell Shaun he owes you a Windstone because it is all his fault because he got you involved and he had no right to get angry at you! 😉

        Then go get a jar of nutella and eat as much of it as you can! 🙂

        #859884
        KoishiiKitty
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          *lots of big fluffy dragon hugs*

          #859934

          Aaarghhhh!….

          I agree with most everything that everyone else said. Shame on that woman for not vet checking them before homing. I am sooo sorry that you are having to go through this! I guess the only thing to do is give them that $250, and wash your hands of it. It really stinks, that’s true, but you really have no other options…You had told them, that you had no idea, and had full confidence that the woman had done right to begin with. If they still blame you…it is their problem! All you can do is Apologize. 🙁 I know it is still going to hurt.

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          #859964
          Setsunawolf
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            Bad juju all around. Drag0n, you did what you thought was best for the kittens. You are not to blame. DDVM is right Feluk is a bad way to go, and unless you have a local person who only adopts positive kitties they probably wouldn’t have gotten the care they needed.

            If I ever (fat chance) get down to no kitties I might only take sick ones, but that’s a big commitment. Sometimes the best you can do is let them go, no matter how much you want to help them.

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            #860022
            drag0nfeathers
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              Now that I am getting better at dealing with the situation “mentally” for the moment, I am getting more and more mad at the people I gave the kittens to…. why didn’t they just call us to give them back is what I keep asking myself.

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              #860033
              Riversgrace
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                Dragon, just my 2 cents here but….I have been doing cat rescue with one of America’s largest no kill cat sanctuaries for the past couple years, so I have some knowlege though I am no expert.

                To the person who is mad at you for the family putting them down…

                Flv/FIV are 100% fatal…end of story, so whether it was now, or a few short, sick months from now the end result would have been the same. Flv is usualy fatal in the first 4 months of life, so it would have been a very short life, and most of it spent sick. FIV takes a lot long, but is just as fatal…

                To the family, when you take kittens from unknown origins, as ALL rescues are..there is always a risk that they are not healthy and may pass. It does come with the territory. I am very sorry for the family who has 5 children now that have been affected, but in no way is this your fault. And yes a 230 bill sucks…but thats another part of rescue. Vets are not cheap and those kitties who need the most, usually have the highest bills.

                Point is, no one, especially you, is to blame here. Everyone involved was trying to do right by the kittens. Its not fair to blame anyone for what happened. Sadly both of the diseases I listed are fatal, and Leuk. can be very nasty and devistating to watch as they slowly die. Instead, the kindest thing for them was done before they suffered.

                Take heart sweety. You were doing everything that you thought (and what I think) is the right thing to do. No one should blame you for any of it, things like this in the rescue world just happen.

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                #860057
                chrisherself
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                  Now that I am getting better at dealing with the situation “mentally” for the moment, I am getting more and more mad at the people I gave the kittens to…. why didn’t they just call us to give them back is what I keep asking myself.

                  Without knowing the conversation they had at the vet’s office, the vet might have convinced them that this was best. If they were upset about this, or if the kids were there during this discussion, it could have been a very emotional scene; maybe they thought they were doing the right thing in the moment. It might not have occurred to them that they could simply give the kittens back. 🙁

                  #860191
                  LadyFirebird
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                    I know how this can go—you try and do something good and get bashed for it! Been there and done that. You did the best you could for these kitties–you meant no harm. Sorry you had such a bad experience!

                    #860219
                    drag0nfeathers
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                      Well.. there have been quite a few new developments over the past few days… turns out they didn’t have leukemia it was panleukopenia.

                      The prognosis on wikipedia is

                      Prognosis

                      Of affected kittens that are two months or less of age, 95% die regardless of treatment. Kittens that are more than two months old have a 60-70% mortality rate with treatment and a nearly 100% mortality rate if not treated. Adult cats have a 10-20% mortality rate if treated, and an 85% mortality rate if not treated. Elderly cats have a 20-30% mortality rate if treated and a 90% mortality rate if not treated.

                      It’s a very aggressive virus that is basically avoided by the getting the distemper vaccine. I’ve now learned the rest of the litter the woman had left over, have all died now. Still none she had were seen by a vet… she said she had an appointment set for Monday. I’m so disgusted right now with the whole situation, but I guess even with treatment… none of them probably would have made it. It’s all just so sad…

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                      #860220
                      Rachel
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                        None of it was your fault. Poor kittens. Not much probably could have been done, other than the woman who originally had the kittens taking them to the vet. I really don’t think you owe any money for this mess.

                        #860221
                        Grayfire_artz
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                          Well.. there have been quite a few new developments over the past few days… turns out they didn’t have leukemia it was panleukopenia.

                          The prognosis on wikipedia is

                          Prognosis

                          Of affected kittens that are two months or less of age, 95% die regardless of treatment. Kittens that are more than two months old have a 60-70% mortality rate with treatment and a nearly 100% mortality rate if not treated. Adult cats have a 10-20% mortality rate if treated, and an 85% mortality rate if not treated. Elderly cats have a 20-30% mortality rate if treated and a 90% mortality rate if not treated.

                          It’s a very aggressive virus that is basically avoided by the getting the distemper vaccine. I’ve now learned the rest of the litter the woman had left over, have all died now. Still none she had were seen by a vet… she said she had an appointment set for Monday. I’m so disgusted right now with the whole situation, but I guess even with treatment… none of them probably would have made it. It’s all just so sad…

                          These kittens where not around your cats, right?

                          I’m very sorry your in this situation.

                          EDIT: I just read through the whole wikipedia! That is the worst feline virus I have ever heard of! I think in the case of those kittens it was a kinder thing that they where put to sleep.

                          #860230
                          Riversgrace
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                            might want to warn the family that they should not have kittens in their home for at least 6 months. Pan sticks around like parvo does, and is a nasty way to go. I am sorry and I hope that everyone realizes that none of this was your fault and apologize to you for making you feel like this.

                            #860244
                            drag0nfeathers
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                              No, I never even got to ever see the kittens in person. I just saw photos of them, but my boyfriend picked them up from the woman and brought them to my coworkers house so HE was around them. He said he didn’t touch or handle them very much because he didn’t want to fall in love with them, but still. I get nervous he may have brought the virus home on his clothes or something so now MY cat’s could be at risk. The 2 newest babies are still current with their shots so they should be fine… it’s my two oldest I am concerned with. They are not up to date on shots because now, they are at that age where they sometimes have had bad reacions to vaccinations. Snickers is pushing 20 now and she hasn’t had vaccinations since she was about 14 just because last time she had them, she had seizures. They are all indoor cats 100%, but I’m still concerned for that off chance one of the babies could have licked him and then my boyfriend could have pet the cats when he got home or anything to that effect…

                              … now that i know what the real virus was, I can understand why they babies were put down… at least now I’m not left questioning why.

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