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July 27, 2011 at 5:40 pm #852116
I don’t know if I’m just being grumpy, but if I was in the financial state to bid on these (and I really love the Jade Copper oriental enough to do so if I could), I would be absolutely interested in knowing who’s work I am bidding on… especially since the pieces will not be signed by Melody, but by the painter.
Initially the idea behind special pieces like this on eBay was to offer artist painted pieces. Museum quality, I think were John’s words. Now, I know test paints are test paints are test paints. They are not an artist’s edition, but still: Why hide the name of the artist? It is very off-putting. As a Windstone (paint) artist myself it is actually a little frustrating!
Completely agree. It’s definitely off-putting.
Why is the name of the artist a secret?
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Please visit My Webpage to see my art and PYO's that I've done in the past!July 27, 2011 at 5:43 pm #852117It just occurred to me that I often don’t know the real names of people on this forum that do PYOs, and I and others have routinely paid more than a standard Windstone sculpt (even more than some ebay ones!) for a PYO that we liked. *shrug*
July 27, 2011 at 5:55 pm #852118John made the decision to keep the painters name confidential, for now. Perhaps to avoid direct competition with Jennifer, Melody, and Olimpia?? I know his original fear was that putting up test paints by production painters would lessen the value of work by our regular ebay artists. Maybe he can answer better here.
The COA will be signed by John. I don’t know if there will be any signature by the painter.
Test Paints by P.S. will still be unique to store pieces because, like Melodys test paints, 99.999% will never make it to any kind of production level. Many will also have a level of detail and complexity that could never be replicated in production. The Burgundy AL is a good example of this.
July 27, 2011 at 6:21 pm #852122The COA will be signed by John. I don’t know if there will be any signature by the painter.
No offense whatsoever to John, but knowing this – I will likely avoid bidding on any of these pieces in the future. I’d SO much rather know who painted the piece, and for it to be signed by that painter. Getting the COA signed by someone who didn’t paint the test piece cheapens it for me.
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Please visit My Webpage to see my art and PYO's that I've done in the past!July 27, 2011 at 7:07 pm #852123Honestly, if I like/love the scheme, it won’t matter to me one bit if it’s signed or not. By the same token, if I don’t like a particular design painted by Melody, Jennifer of Olimpia, the fact that it was painted by them and holds their signature will not prompt me to buy it. No offense to the artists!
But from the collectors’ point of view, I guess I can see how it might make a difference.
July 27, 2011 at 8:23 pm #852128Having the COAs signed by John is not new. Last year I was lucky enough to get Olympia’s Cinnamon Pearl Riser (painted in 2008) and that COA is signed “John L. Alberti President, Windstone Editions”. The dragon, however, is signed by Olympia.
July 27, 2011 at 8:24 pm #852129Having the name of the artist is important to me as a buyer. I have Olympia pieces and Melody pieces and soon will have my first Jennifer piece. I am less inclined to bid as aggressively on these P.S. pieces without knowing the artist name. The style is different from the main three artists so it is something all on its own.
July 27, 2011 at 8:28 pm #852131I’m with ghostndragon and littleironhorse. I buy eBay pieces and pyos because I like what I see, not based on who painted them. As long as the painter him/herself is fine with this, and Windstone isn’t using slave labor (yeah right 😉 I’m not getting bent out of shape.
Maybe they’ve found a way to get the sculptures to paint each other–that would be a stroke of genius! 😉
July 27, 2011 at 8:38 pm #852132Having the COAs signed by John is not new. Last year I was lucky enough to get Olympia’s Cinnamon Pearl Riser (painted in 2008) and that COA is signed “John L. Alberti President, Windstone Editions”. The dragon, however, is signed by Olympia.
I suppose it’s the fact that the dragon itself is ALSO not signed that really gets me. On the COA, does it say the artist’s name? That also matters. It’s not so much that John signs the COA, it’s more that the name of the artist is included as well as the piece being signed by the artist.
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Please visit My Webpage to see my art and PYO's that I've done in the past!July 27, 2011 at 9:50 pm #852137If Windstone (and Melody) approve of the work, and a person likes it, why is it such a big deal what that person’s NAME is?
It doesn’t matter to some people, I agree! And that is totally okay.
But it does matter to others. It probably only matters to me because I am an artist. To me, who the artist is just as important as how pretty the picture (or I guess paint job in this case) is. Since I cannot bid, though, it doesn’t really matter what I think! I am only worried what other collectors think.
If the painter wishes to remain anonymous I can understand and respect that, but I think it might be a point of contention for some.
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My art: featherdust.comJuly 27, 2011 at 9:52 pm #852139By the way– any COAs for my pieces are signed by John as well since I am not physically at the Factory to sign them. But I send along my own signed, hand-drawn sketch to help compensate for this.
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My art: featherdust.comJuly 27, 2011 at 9:56 pm #852141Whatever anyone’s opinion about the signature on the actual piece, I don’t think that the signature on the COA should be an issue, after all, it’s Windstone as a legal entity that’s certifying the provenance of the item, so all that’s needed is that it be signed by an official representative of Windstone.
July 27, 2011 at 10:30 pm #852148Not that I could ever afford a special ebay item, but if I could, I would appreciate it being signed by the artist. I’m with Jen and Hannah for the same reasons on this…
But with that said, it’s totally up to Windstone on how they choose to sell these ‘special’ items. It’s obvious that they will sell regardless of being signed or not.July 27, 2011 at 10:35 pm #852150Whatever anyone’s opinion about the signature on the actual piece, I don’t think that the signature on the COA should be an issue, after all, it’s Windstone as a legal entity that’s certifying the provenance of the item, so all that’s needed is that it be signed by an official representative of Windstone.
It’s just my own opinion – I don’t like the idea of buying something that an anonymous artist has done. If the piece had a signature it wouldn’t be an issue! Since the piece in question does not have a signature on the felt pad, I would hope for some mention of the artist in the COA. I’m sure this isn’t an issue for some people – for me personally, the piece itself loses value without the artist being identified. I just dont like it 😛
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Please visit My Webpage to see my art and PYO's that I've done in the past!July 27, 2011 at 10:36 pm #852151Just wanted to make it clear that our Mystery Test Painter wishes to remain annonymous at this time, Windstone is not forcing that upon “P.S.”
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