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Yet another lurker jumping on the comfort bandwagon here.
Newer pieces or not, your starting prices were reasonable. And offering unusual pieces, in good condition and safely shipped helps other collectors to fill in gaps on their own collection. Which should be self evident.
Sounds like you just ran across a bad case of sour grapes. So take heart. [/i]
I’m sorry you got attacked like that, Phoenix. Your starting prices were reasonable – obviously, or you wouldn’t have gotten so many offers. I hope you can ignore the insult and still have a good time with the rest of us, because we’d miss you. 🙁
I agree with everyone else. Your prices were VERY reasonable. Don’t let someone drive you away. They obviously have some issues to deal with.
I actually thought your starting prices were a bit low on a few of the pieces. Your friends will miss you and your observations. You pieces are your pieces to sell, keep or hurl through the air on a catapult if you really want….although that would be a waste of an investment.
To whomever attacked Pheonix, if I had to sell my OOAK Graphite OW would you rather I list it here for what I paid for it or put it up on ebay and let the bidding go nuts? I’ve had several offers to buy him IF I needed to sell and it would be my business if I did sell him. Just like it’s Phoenix’s business to sell her prices for whatever the market will bear. She doesn’t set the final price the collectors who want to add her pieces to their collections do, so I guess you need to pm ALL of us and tell us to quit driving the prices up….not so sure that’ll work though
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Sun Dragon Koi #3Addressing the buying of multiple LPs and putting them on eBay: my biggest concern is that eventually John will say enough is enough. Why should Windstone be nice and put the LPs in the store for x amount of money, so somebody (or somebodies) can buy them up and sell them for X amount of money on eBay. They could just put everything on eBay and get those high selling prices for themselves.
Yes, it’s a free market and no, none of us have to bid on them, but somebody is sure bidding on them.
Just some food for thought. I’m not trying to start an argument. I’m just pointing out that “our” behavior now could adversely affect us in the long run.
Wow! 😯 Whoever made you feel that way should be ashamed of themselves!! I never did see what you were selling, or the prices, but you have no reason to feel like a low-life, and you are definitely not a low-life. That person was probably just angry because he/she wanted a piece you were selling and was hoping that it would be sold for less, so they took it out on you (the seller). Even if that isn’t the reason, they should not have said anything. It is not their business to do that to you! Please come back! I have always loved you being on this forum! 😀
lamortefille wrote:Addressing the buying of multiple LPs and putting them on eBay: my biggest concern is that eventually John will say enough is enough. Why should Windstone be nice and put the LPs in the store for x amount of money, so somebody (or somebodies) can buy them up and sell them for X amount of money on eBay. They could just put everything on eBay and get those high selling prices for themselves.
Yes, it’s a free market and no, none of us have to bid on them, but somebody is sure bidding on them.
Just some food for thought. I’m not trying to start an argument. I’m just pointing out that “our” behavior now could adversely affect us in the long run.
I remember Jennifer saying in another post that nobody has been buying huge amounts of LP’s then selling them on ebay. So I don’t think that is a major problem. Retired stuff or unavailable stuff just sells for more because collector’s can’t get it. Even current LP stuff that is unavailable but will be back is selling for higher than normal now because people don’t want to wait. Granted there are people who buy multiples and then sell them later, but they aren’t buying up the entire stock. Windstone is very good to it’s collectors, I don’t think John would punish all of us because one or two people were abusing the system. They could just limit how many of each piece you could buy per order. That would stop a lot of buying multiples when they first come out so other people can’t get even one.But this thread is about Phoenix and her bad experience, sorry, I’ll get off my soap box now.
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Sun Dragon Koi #3setsunawolf wrote:lamortefille wrote:Addressing the buying of multiple LPs and putting them on eBay: my biggest concern is that eventually John will say enough is enough. Why should Windstone be nice and put the LPs in the store for x amount of money, so somebody (or somebodies) can buy them up and sell them for X amount of money on eBay. They could just put everything on eBay and get those high selling prices for themselves.
Yes, it’s a free market and no, none of us have to bid on them, but somebody is sure bidding on them.
Just some food for thought. I’m not trying to start an argument. I’m just pointing out that “our” behavior now could adversely affect us in the long run.
I remember Jennifer saying in another post that nobody has been buying huge amounts of LP’s then selling them on ebay. So I don’t think that is a major problem. Retired stuff or unavailable stuff just sells for more because collector’s can’t get it. Even current LP stuff that is unavailable but will be back is selling for higher than normal now because people don’t want to wait. Granted there are people who buy multiples and then sell them later, but they aren’t buying up the entire stock. Windstone is very good to it’s collectors, I don’t think John would punish all of us because one or two people were abusing the system. They could just limit how many of each piece you could buy per order. That would stop a lot of buying multiples when they first come out so other people can’t get even one.But this thread is about Phoenix and her bad experience, sorry, I’ll get off my soap box now.
I would hope John wouldn’t “punish” all of us for the actions of a few, but you never know. It’s all about keeping Windstone “in the black”, after all.
I only brought it up because a couple of other people mentioned it in this thread. I’m not the only one that’s noticed it. *shrugs*
I don’t think that’s what Phoenix was doing, so I don’t think it’s an issue here. Most of her LP items were the same price as they sold for originally.
I don’t think that’s what Phoenix was doing, either. I thought all of her prices were very reasonable. I was merely commenting on what other people had already brought up in this thread.
Windstone loves to see the prices on pieces increase after they are sold to collectors. Not because Windstone sees extra money from this (after all, how would they? After they originally sell the piece, it is only sold between collectors).
No, they like to see the prices go up, because that is good news for their collectors. Windstone of course is a business and as such they need to keep a profit to keep making and selling, but they are a collector-based business. YOU guys are what keep them going, literally; hence this forum and the way Melody loves all the feedback. They know they are selling a product that will only appreciate in value, which for a collector means that they have low risk of turning around and re-selling for a loss. Especially on special pieces! So, for Windstone, it is a happy day when their product appreciates in value.
The only sort of profit that Windstone frowns upon is if someone is intentionally misrepresenting a piece or if they alter a non-PYO piece for a profit.
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My art: featherdust.comJennifer wrote:Windstone loves to see the prices on pieces increase after they are sold to collectors. Not because Windstone sees extra money from this (after all, how would they? After they originally sell the piece, it is only sold between collectors).
No, they like to see the prices go up, because that is good news for their collectors. Windstone of course is a business and as such they need to keep a profit to keep making and selling, but they are a collector-based business. YOU guys are what keep them going, literally; hence this forum and the way Melody loves all the feedback. They know they are selling a product that will only appreciate in value, which for a collector means that they have low risk of turning around and re-selling for a loss. Especially on special pieces! So, for Windstone, it is a happy day when their product appreciates in value.
The only sort of profit that Windstone frowns upon is if someone is intentionally misrepresenting a piece or if they alter a non-PYO piece for a profit.
Yeah…I was reading this thread while really confused….I was thinking, “pieces fetching a nice price is a GOOD thing, right?” Especially LP pieces…the “limited” production of them adds to the appeal, because you know there are fewer of them. Sounds to me like someone’s snippy they missed out, and now cant afford a piece they may have wanted. my two cents. 😕
I couldn’t afford any of her pieces (I don’t remember if I wanted any, or not) but I would never be snippy. At the most I would go, I want that but… can’t afford it. That has nothing to do whether it’s a good price or not. I can’t afford $10. 😆 Maybe this person wanted a deal on it, but couldn’t get it?
My two cents…Phoenix, I think that you were more than reasonable with your sale, it shouldn’t matter if you were selling one old piece or 17 LP ones…you were more than fair, and always are. Your reasons for selling are your own, and noone should discourage you for that. Please come back!!
well, the way I see it, her prices were really reasonable. I bid on the spotted Griffin female for 160.00 and shipping, so lets break this down. Spotted female in store $144.00, shipping $19.20. hmm
144.00+19.20= $163.20. looks like she wasn’t even breaking even with my bid. Not to mention, packing materials, gas to the post offie, and her time.
The way someone treated you Phoenix I can understand you being upset. Afterall, you did come here first to sell. You would’ve made lots more with less aggravation on ebay. But come back, we miss you.I agree with everybody else! Please come back Phoenix! You have every right to sell what is yours, for whatever price, they are YOUR Windstones for pete-sakes! I would have loved to have bought some of your items, but I’m so damn broke right now it’s not even funny. They were priced very reasonably so don’t feel guilty.
I have to admit I get annoyed if I can’t get a LP piece sometimes, but thats because I either miss them when they come out in the store or because I don’t have the money when they come out. That’s MY problem, not anyone elses. If someone buys a LP piece and then sells it so be it! Its a free market, and besides you were selling items that you had for a while… It’s your buisness what you want to do with your Windstones.
I think alot of us collecters are hurting for cash right now, and that’s why you see a lot of people selling stuff. More power to them, if they can make a profit, great! Please come back Phoenix…
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