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    I agree, Sunhawk, but they do have a way of getting things done.

    #776686
    chrisherself
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      sunhawk wrote:

      Vore is something I find disturbing on a number of levels. I hope the video has been removed, I can’t bring myself to click the link.
      Though I wouldn’t bring anything to PETA’s attention, I don’t like the idea of giving them the idea they are in any way the authority on anything, because in their own way they are just as bad.

      Well put Sunhawk. I get very frustrated with PETA, because they have the power and voice to mobilize and make change for the better, but sometimes I think they’re just as much into “shock value” as the people who post animal cruelty for entertainment. I see some of their campaigns and think they could have gotten a lot more accomplished if they weren’t so focused on being outlandish to get people’s attention. They’re not attracting new “converts” that way–just pushing them further away. I think most of their campaigns are targeted toward people who ALREADY agree with PETA and that’s poor marketing.

      But, still, sometimes it’s who you gotta go to.

      #776687
      bayoudragon
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        WolfenMachine wrote:

        chrisherself wrote:

        That’s true. The jury is out on whether it’s acceptable to feed live prey to snakes. I, for one, am actually all right with it, because it happens that way in nature all the time. I’d prefer to feed pre-killed prey, but my sister and I have kept snakes and some simply just won’t take dead food. Right now she has a Colombian Rainbow Boa that’s still small enough to eat young mice and that’s the case with him. He calls shenanigans no matter how “alive” we try to make the mouse seem. So we feed him live. But, he stalks, bites, and constricts the mouse efficiently, and it is over in less than a minute. When he gets big enough to eat prey that can fight back more, we might try again to get him accepting pre-killed, but really, if you feed the snake a prey animal that is appropriately sized for it, he will usually dispatch his meal quickly and efficiently. Nature is cold, but it is not excessively cruel.

        Her Colombian Rainbow Boa is small though. Larger snakes that eat pigs or rabbits, even if I had a snake large enough to kill that kind of prey itself, I’d still want to take precautions.

        What sort of snakes does your guy have WolfenMachine?

        Aww, Rainbow boa ^_^ Those are sooo beautiful! He’s got 1-a 7 or 8 foot red-tailed boa, and just this past year has aquired 2-a young carpet python and 3-a young rosy/sand boa (that he had me convinced was lethal for about a week. 🙄 )

        LOL… I also have a rosy (Mexican Rosy). She was actually a drop-off, and I took her in. They’re awesome little snakes. I also have a 7-8 foot Red-tail Boa and an Amazon Tree Boa. The tree boa was a Katrina rescue. His owner dropped him off at the nature center until he could find a new place but ended up abandoning him. I eventually fell in love with the little demon and took him in too. 😆

        But if anyone ever drops off a Rainbow at the nature center, I’m so putting dibs on that one! The hubby will just have to deal… 😳

        #776688
        chrisherself
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          That’s so evil of your man WolfenMachine 😆

          I’ll see if I can take a picture of my sister’s boa tomorrow when the sun comes back. He’s sooooo pretty! I’d love to see pics of everyone else’s snakes too. I took down the original post, I don’t think leaving it up here is doing more good than harm at this point. Much better to have a herp-loving thread 😀

          #776689

          purpledragonclaw wrote:

          I agree, Sunhawk, but they do have a way of getting things done.

          Yeah but they have a way of “getting things done” the way that killer bees have a way of “sometimes stinging people” :X

          #776690

          chrisherself wrote:

          sunhawk wrote:

          Vore is something I find disturbing on a number of levels. I hope the video has been removed, I can’t bring myself to click the link.
          Though I wouldn’t bring anything to PETA’s attention, I don’t like the idea of giving them the idea they are in any way the authority on anything, because in their own way they are just as bad.

          Well put Sunhawk. I get very frustrated with PETA, because they have the power and voice to mobilize and make change for the better, but sometimes I think they’re just as much into “shock value” as the people who post animal cruelty for entertainment. I see some of their campaigns and think they could have gotten a lot more accomplished if they weren’t so focused on being outlandish to get people’s attention. They’re not attracting new “converts” that way–just pushing them further away. I think most of their campaigns are targeted toward people who ALREADY agree with PETA and that’s poor marketing.

          But, still, sometimes it’s who you gotta go to.

          Well there’s that, but I was also thinking about PETA’s habit of picking up animals from shelters and putting them to sleep and tossing the dead bodies in dumpsters, because they believe owning pets is also “cruel” :/ So I have a hard time finding any reason to go to them for anything, because I don’t trust them to make ethical decisions that I would agree with.

          #776691
          lamortefille
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            I agree, sunny. When you scratch PETA’s surface, some extremely ugly facts surface.

            #776692
            chrisherself
            Participant

              Wow. They’re not my favorite organization but I didn’t know much about their more nefarious practices.

              If you can’t say something nice, sit next to me. 👿

              #776693
              bayoudragon
              Participant

                *sits next to chris*

                I really, really want to post the link to the “sea kitten” campaign, but I am behaving myself. 😈 😆

                I am going to remember to get pics of my snakes to post… I swear! 😀

                #776694
                lamortefille
                Participant

                  Well curiosity killed the land fish, so I had to Google “sea kitten”. Very interesting. 🙄

                  *sits next to chris and bayou*

                  #776695

                  I just Googled it. Whoa.

                  *joins the growing circle with chris, bayou, and lamorte*

                  #776696
                  Nightcrow
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                    I don’t have a youtube account and therefore can’t help with the flagging effort, but if what I’ve gleaned of the video’s contents from comments here are correct, I hope everyone else is dogpiling on the poster!

                    Nakase wrote:

                    snakes are not that stupid to eat backwards.

                    My little greedyguts of a kingsnake does frequently eat his (frozen/thawed, thank you!) mice backwards. (Once, when he was pretty young, he tried to start from the middle!) 🙂 He’s the most un-picky snake I’ve ever encountered — nice, really, considering that when I worked at the pet store I heard multiple owners purchasing live mice telling me how picky and stubborn their critters were — one woman even had to buy *dark* mice, because her python wouldn’t eat the white ones! 🙂

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                    #776697
                    bayoudragon
                    Participant

                      Our crazy little racer at the nature center will also eats his backwards. He just grabs his food and starts working on whichever end is closer to his mouth. 😆

                      Our 13-foot burmese python WON’T eat rabbits… freak… 😮

                      #776698
                      chrisherself
                      Participant

                        Oh, Sea Kittens XD

                        I actually fell for that one a couple months back. When I clicked the link, I really, really couldn’t believe what I was reading.

                        Then there’s that one commercial where they gut the woman alive. Eeeeesh. Guess that’s kind of what I was getting at earlier, about their campaigns just driving people away.

                        #776699
                        bayoudragon
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                          Yeh, but they try to reel you in, too. I saw this ad in the mall one day. NO, DAVID!! WHY! WHY!

                          http://www.peta.org/mc/ads/DavidBoreanaz300.pdf

                          Peta is not stupid. They use star power to sucker you in. If I didn’t know about Peta’s other campaigns, this makes them look like a great organization.

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