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BiPolarBear wrote:
at least if a guy wears corduroy you can hear him from like a mile away.
Not very sneaky.
The Castle [Dave wrote:“]My wish would be for everyone to have the option of a formal Education, to enable them to think clearly and to use their brain to their own advantage.
But a lot of the bad things that happen, happen as a direct result of ignorance. Insufficient knowledge; false assumptions; propaganda; unwarranted credulity. All these things cause people to make bad decisions that end up causing pain to themselves or others.
On the other hand, I guess I’d also be happy with a $5.00 off coupon for a bag of cat food.
I missed a whole page on conversation. Dont people have the option of formal education now? Most of the people who are causing problems in the world are the same ones who dont even graduate high school. Do you think that even if college was free that they would go? No, they want everything handed to them and someone to blame when they fail at something. There are thousands of grants out there that are available to people who dont have the funds, and the military is a last resort but still gives FREE college to its service members. I dont think its the lack of availability of schooling, I think its lack of morals and proper parenting. I guess I would wish for parents to raise their damn kids instead of letting them run loose all night tearing apart the trash and spraying my walls with spraypaint. 😡
People in the US and other first world countries definitely have the opportunity to get an education, and I agree that poor parenting is often what a major factor in why people don’t in those countries.
But many millions of people in third world countries (like those in Africa) never have the opportunity to get an education…they can’t even get enough to eat, or be sure that they’ll be alive the next day. 🙁
That is true. I was not thinking big picture, more along the lines of what affects us today in America. Third world countries often have corrupt leadership that dont care about the needs of the people and that contributes greatly to their plight.
skigod377 wrote:The Castle [Dave wrote:“]My wish would be for everyone to have the option of a formal Education, to enable them to think clearly and to use their brain to their own advantage.
But a lot of the bad things that happen, happen as a direct result of ignorance. Insufficient knowledge; false assumptions; propaganda; unwarranted credulity. All these things cause people to make bad decisions that end up causing pain to themselves or others.
On the other hand, I guess I’d also be happy with a $5.00 off coupon for a bag of cat food.
I missed a whole page on conversation. Dont people have the option of formal education now? Most of the people who are causing problems in the world are the same ones who dont even graduate high school. Do you think that even if college was free that they would go? No, they want everything handed to them and someone to blame when they fail at something…I dont think its the lack of availability of schooling, I think its lack of morals and proper parenting. I guess I would wish for parents to raise their damn kids instead of letting them run loose all night tearing apart the trash and spraying my walls with spraypaint. 😡
Definately…to many parents decide to let the school systems raise their children, and that is not the purpose of the education system. So few parents actually KNOW their kids…their likes, dislikes, friends, favorite book, passions and goals.. This leaves kids pretty much raising themselves and turning into giant 6 year olds…temper tantrums and all.
The school system has no choice but to try and cope with this flood of kids who never care, unsupportive parents and the state goverment pushing for better test scores. You’ve got classrooms who can’t give the extra time to the extra bright or the extra needy children and are forced to go at the pace of nearly the weakest students. Is it any wonder that the stuff I remember studying in 6th grade is now being studied by kids in 8th? In this state the education board is so competitive on testing scores that the education and skill learning of the individual students fall to the wayside…Some students get tossed on to the next grade again and again even though they may not understand the curriculum they just studied, just to get them out of the way and then they become the next teacher’s problem. I’ve met middle-schoolers who could not read because of this. It’s a sad situation… 😡That is totally ridiculous. I guess that is what they mean when they say “No child gets left behind.” Just pass him on to the next grade so our stats look good.
It is pretty bad — which makes it even more important that the parents instill the correct values in the kids.
skigod377 wrote:Third world countries often have corrupt leadership that dont care about the needs of the people and that contributes greatly to their plight.
That’s the truth. Its a really sad situation, and it seems like those people are doomed to continue like that unless they get some decent leaders.
mimitrek wrote:It is pretty bad — which makes it even more important that the parents instill the correct values in the kids.
You are correct, but this is very difficult when the parents of your child’s “friends” don’t cooperate with you. I have some very basic guidelines for my daughter. For example: you can’t stay at a friend’s house when there is no adult present. Result: the parents went out and left a group of boys and girls at the house by themselves on more than one occasion. Another mother was helping my daughter keep in touch with an adult male via the internet when she knew my daughter wasn’t allowed to be in touch with him. Both parents feel I am too strict with my daughter. I think they have a lot of nerve imposing their standards on my daughter as well as teaching her it’s ok to do what you want as long as you don’t get caught. Needless to say, she is no longer allowed to hang out with either of these friends. *ends rant*
What crap! I miss the old “It takes a village to raise a child.” Thats because the smart people can repair the damage the stupid people do, and there are more responsible eyes on the children. Not to mention, they learn alot more manners. Now, if you try to correct a child, the parent will step in and get beligerent even if you are RIGHT! Well, some parents. Excuse me. I am going to go beat my kid. 😛 Just playin. My boy is a good boy. Around me anyway.
I hear ya!!! I’m not afraid to correct some of my son’s friends, but there are others who’s parents would probably jump down my throat!!! 👿 And feel welcome to beat mine too, if you think he needs it!! 😆
mimitrek wrote:People in the US and other first world countries definitely have the opportunity to get an education, and I agree that poor parenting is often what a major factor in why people don’t in those countries.
But many millions of people in third world countries (like those in Africa) never have the opportunity to get an education…they can’t even get enough to eat, or be sure that they’ll be alive the next day. 🙁
You know what was interestering is my sister went to Africa to volunteer to teach the children. She said that people did have money for clothes but so many clothes get donated from the U.S. that they didn’t bother buying clothes. She also said that it was interesting that everyone had a cell phone.On the teacher issue, I do agree that parents should prepare their children and work with the teacher to help their child become more educated. I was a assistant teacher for a first grade class and the teacher would complain to me that parents didn’t help their child. There were some kids that didn’t even know how to use scissors and couldn’t count to to the required number for that grade. They also didn’t know their ABCs. I have told my sister numerous times that she needs to start potty training my nephew. He will be 2 in Sept 2nd. She has told me that she doesn’t have time. I would hate to see him still in diapers when he is 4 years old.
dragonessjade wrote:You know what was interestering is my sister went to Africa to volunteer to teach the children. She said that people did have money for clothes but so many clothes get donated from the U.S. that they didn’t bother buying clothes. She also said that it was interesting that everyone had a cell phone.
It sounds like she was associating with the more fortunate people. If that’s not the case — then the US should cut back on the foreign aid! 😆
dragonessjade wrote:On the teacher issue, I do agree that parents should prepare their children and work with the teacher to help their child become more educated. I was a assistant teacher for a first grade class and the teacher would complain to me that parents didn’t help their child. There were some kids that didn’t even know how to use scissors and couldn’t count to to the required number for that grade. They also didn’t know their ABCs. I have told my sister numerous times that she needs to start potty training my nephew. He will be 2 in Sept 2nd. She has told me that she doesn’t have time. I would hate to see him still in diapers when he is 4 years old.
Yeah, those kinds of things are pretty bad. If someone decides to have a kid, then they’ve already made a commitment to have time for that kid. But I guess that doesn’t turn out to be the case a lot of the time.
But as far as the parents helping to teach their child — I agree that that would be the best case scenario, but I think the most important thing is that the parents teach the child to value education and to have a good work ethic. If a child has that, then he/she will be able to learn and do well even if the parents aren’t able to help (e.g., the parents themselves are poorly educated, they don’t speak the language, etc.).
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