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Some might, but a lot of us think it’s true. This is such a large country and we’re used to the idea that everything is unlimited, but sadly it isn’t. 🙁
dragonessjade wrote:purplecat wrote:It’s always killed me that sodas and Koolaid and other junk is so much cheaper than the healthy alternatives…It makes it really hard to feed your family healthy affordably. Wow, $8 a gallon, ouch! We live near enough to my husband’s job he either walks or rides his bike most of the time, so gas doesn’t hurt our family as badly as some that have to commute. I’m glad you’re having a good trip. Always feel free to drop in if you’re near here! You’re always welcome as long as you can put up with cats and kids! 😀
I know that is what killed me as well. They want you to eat healthier, but the junk food is cheaper. I am thinking because a lot of people buy it and so it is more affordable. If the government makes the junk food more expensive then I think that would help.
How about lowering the heathy food instead of raising prices on the junk food??
In my part of CA we are still paying about $3.20 for gas. It actually uses less gas to keep the engine running if it’s a short time that stopping and starting the engine again and againGreater Basilisk wrote:Whew. 😛 I was worried somebody might get hot around the collar for that.
Nope. Its too true. We have all this technology, and we are hoping that we will be able to save the world with it cuz we are not willing to recycle 😕 I hate lazy people or people who just dont care 🙁 (Or dont want to do their small part, and just hope someone else fixes it)
Dragoness, they turn off their cars at red lights!! 😆 I noticed it alot more 6 years ago. Now it doesnt seem like they do it as much.
Recycling – that’s another thing. We recycle everything in Switzerland. I feel so guilty here when I put the gallon jug or the aluminum can into the trash together with cardboard boxes and paper. At home each of those would be individually recycled. Here I know it’s all going into a landfill.
It’s very true. Not all Americans are like that but the vast majority are. This has become a ‘discardable’ society where everything seems to get thrown away and is (thought to be) replaceable. Resources, heck I even saw it in the pet industry. I heard the arguement of “If it dies we’ll just get another, it’s only a $X.XX (fish/parakeet/hamster/etc)” hundreds if not thousands of times. What is this teaching future generations?
Re: Food/Junk Food
The worst part is that most of us middle class people are starting to live paycheck to paycheck (if we can find a job! I know at least two dozen people that have college degrees and cannot even get in minimum wage retail jobs!) as more and more jobs are outsourced overseas… this means that families are more apt to be frugal when it comes to food shopping. That $0.20 package of Ramen noodles or $0.80 package of nothing-in-it white bread starts looking a lot better than a healthy meal with vegetables, etc.Re: Recycling
Some parts of the US are really good about recycling. I hope I don’t offend anyone with this, but most places up north have recycling pick up and easy drop offs.
Here, (and when I was in TX I couldn’t even find a place that did it!) we have to drive about 30 miles one way to the dump, wait in line, drive down to the little recycling area way off to one side and distribute our recycling there. We do go weekly, but honestly, how many people do you think would go out of their way to do this?? Not many, here. We’re some of the few. Every week on trash day, I see all the neighbors putting out huge trash cans (the really big ones that you could probably fet 3 people in) but it doesn’t stop there. I know the neighbors two houses down only have one child and two adults, but they always have at least 3-5 EXTRA 50 gallon trash bags stuffed full out there. It’s really sad.Don’t even get me started on the people that buy huge SUVs and trucks for status only and never even go on a dirt road with them. I see people driving hummers (with one passenger no less), sparkling clean, never saw mud in it’s life… with “CONSERVE WILDLIFE” and “PRESERVE THE ENVIRONMENT” plates on. All the time. Perhaps the hypocracy is only evident to some…
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My art: featherdust.comThats funny about the SUVs. Reminded me of the animated movie where the racoon is telling the others about “Humans” and explains the SUV. He says “And thats an SUV!” one of the kid animals says “Whoa! How many people can fit in it?” and the racoon replies “Usually? One.”
When I lived in Texas, we had a little bin that the city (Someone?) provided us, and we could put recyclables in there. I did that the whole time I lived in Killeen.
You’re right Nam. I dont know many people who would be willing to do that… the whole drive, and waiting in line. I am glad I have never been put to the test. 😕
skigod377 wrote:You’re right Nam. I dont know many people who would be willing to do that… the whole drive, and waiting in line. I am glad I have never been put to the test. 😕
There are times we get fed up and skip a week. I mean, we don’t throw the recyclables out, but we just let them pile up. Then we have to fill the trunk AND backseat of our car, to bursting! I’ve even had to sit in the passenger seat before, piled with cardboard in my lap. Just imagine if all that went in the trash though! It’s amazing how much 5 people generate.
At least there are sometimes other ways of recycling! Many people will throw away all their packages and filler when they get things in the mail. With 5 of us here, and me working from home where I depend on things being shipped to me and then shipping back out, there is a lot of packing materials. I save and reuse it! 🙂
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My art: featherdust.comI’m very lucky here. We do have a little recycle bin that we fill with anything that can be recycled and then every Saturday morning, it goes out by the curb for the recycle truck. 😉 What’s sad is the company that I work for doesn’t recycle. They did a few years ago, but they quit because they have to pay someone to pick up the recycle items and it was cut out as a way of saving costs. 🙁
And, puhleez….don’t get me started on all the Hummers with one person in them!! 🙄
Dragon Master wrote:dragonessjade wrote:purplecat wrote:It’s always killed me that sodas and Koolaid and other junk is so much cheaper than the healthy alternatives…It makes it really hard to feed your family healthy affordably. Wow, $8 a gallon, ouch! We live near enough to my husband’s job he either walks or rides his bike most of the time, so gas doesn’t hurt our family as badly as some that have to commute. I’m glad you’re having a good trip. Always feel free to drop in if you’re near here! You’re always welcome as long as you can put up with cats and kids! 😀
I know that is what killed me as well. They want you to eat healthier, but the junk food is cheaper. I am thinking because a lot of people buy it and so it is more affordable. If the government makes the junk food more expensive then I think that would help.
How about lowering the heathy food instead of raising prices on the junk food??
In my part of CA we are still paying about $3.20 for gas. It actually uses less gas to keep the engine running if it’s a short time that stopping and starting the engine again and againThat is what I meant. Raising the prices of Junk food and lowering the prices on healthy food.
skigod377 wrote:Greater Basilisk wrote:Whew. 😛 I was worried somebody might get hot around the collar for that.
Nope. Its too true. We have all this technology, and we are hoping that we will be able to save the world with it cuz we are not willing to recycle 😕 I hate lazy people or people who just dont care 🙁 (Or dont want to do their small part, and just hope someone else fixes it)
Dragoness, they turn off their cars at red lights!! 😆 I noticed it alot more 6 years ago. Now it doesnt seem like they do it as much.
No way, at red lights? Wow, I think I would get annoyed if I had to do that.And we also have a recycling bin we use to fill up and put out the curb every 2 weeks. I have found that we don’t use it very often, but I try to use it. I have also found that I am the only one in my house who turns off the fans, lights and stuff that I am not using. I try to get my bf to turn them off, but he says that it is too hot when we come home. I think the room mate at least does sometimes.
Its not every red light they come to or anything… but if they get caught at a red light just when it turns red? Off goes the engine… unless its a short light. There are some of those around. When they get stuck in traffic, too, they turn off the cars on the highway and get out and visit with eachother. 😆
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When they get stuck in traffic, too, they turn off the cars on the highway and get out and visit with eachother.
That would probably be much healthier than sitting in your car getting frustrated & mad! I mean, why do some people honk when you’re stuck in traffic?Americans are soooo wasteful, it’s true. I’m horrified at the amount of water we waste (and I live in a desert where people have sprinklers on during the day so their grass stays green) and what we don’t recycle. We save up stuff for months before we take it in to be recycled, and I’m glad we have a trash service now, ’cause the trip to the dump was always a drag, and it cost money. Which means a lot of people go out to the forest or mesa and just dump their trash, which sucks. Often they will have prescription bottles and mail in there with their name and address (duh!), but the laws are so flimsy here that it often doesn’t even make a difference unless someone saw them dumping.
I read once that one European country (more than one?) actually charges people for the amount of trash they throw away, and that they actually recycle like 90% of what we would be throwing away. Anyone know what country and what the actual numbers are?As for eating healthier, I never paid too much attention until I was pregnant with my first child, and then I was really good for awhile, and now I think we’re eating healthier than many, but not like we were. One thing that I found though, if you’re willing to make your own breads & rolls: King Arthur white whole wheat flour, which is a lighter flavored whole wheat. I even use it in pancakes, tortillas, and some cookies. (There are some things that really just need to be unhealthy, like eclairs, cause wheat flour makes ’em suck.) It seems small, but the amount of bread we consume in our house makes it worthwhile.
boskydragon wrote:Quote:skigod377 Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject:
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When they get stuck in traffic, too, they turn off the cars on the highway and get out and visit with eachother.
That would probably be much healthier than sitting in your car getting frustrated & mad! I mean, why do some people honk when you’re stuck in traffic?Americans are soooo wasteful, it’s true. I’m horrified at the amount of water we waste (and I live in a desert where people have sprinklers on during the day so their grass stays green) and what we don’t recycle. We save up stuff for months before we take it in to be recycled, and I’m glad we have a trash service now, ’cause the trip to the dump was always a drag, and it cost money. Which means a lot of people go out to the forest or mesa and just dump their trash, which sucks. Often they will have prescription bottles and mail in there with their name and address (duh!), but the laws are so flimsy here that it often doesn’t even make a difference unless someone saw them dumping.
I read once that one European country (more than one?) actually charges people for the amount of trash they throw away, and that they actually recycle like 90% of what we would be throwing away. Anyone know what country and what the actual numbers are?As for eating healthier, I never paid too much attention until I was pregnant with my first child, and then I was really good for awhile, and now I think we’re eating healthier than many, but not like we were. One thing that I found though, if you’re willing to make your own breads & rolls: King Arthur white whole wheat flour, which is a lighter flavored whole wheat. I even use it in pancakes, tortillas, and some cookies. (There are some things that really just need to be unhealthy, like eclairs, cause wheat flour makes ’em suck.) It seems small, but the amount of bread we consume in our house makes it worthwhile.
They are considering a ‘tag-a-bag’ program for trash when the introduct the curbside recycling program in a couple of years. We would have to tag out trash and get charged for more than 2 bags of trash
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