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    Oh wow Drag0n! I can’t believe they seemed to not even care! 😯 I am really glad I am reading all of this because I have two dogs myself. I hope your cat will be as good as new soon!

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    Kyrin wrote:

    Only use Frontline or Advantage on your pets! Everything else is poisonous…especially the over the counter “like Frontline” crap.

    Watch out for wormers too, there is only one you can get at a pet store that is safe and is the same as what you get from the vet. I’ll get the name for you later.

    Kyrin

    Oh great, a generic Frontline. I’ve never even heard of it. It’s hard finding places that carry Advantage (it’s what I use). Places like Petco and Petsmart don’t carry them; you have to go to a vet. Fortunately, I found a way around that. 8) There’s a new pill my vet recommended called Comfortis, or something like that. Anyone familiar with it?

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    Jennifer
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      purpledragonclaw wrote:

      Kyrin wrote:

      Only use Frontline or Advantage on your pets! Everything else is poisonous…especially the over the counter “like Frontline” crap.

      Watch out for wormers too, there is only one you can get at a pet store that is safe and is the same as what you get from the vet. I’ll get the name for you later.

      Kyrin

      Oh great, a generic Frontline. I’ve never even heard of it. It’s hard finding places that carry Advantage (it’s what I use). Places like Petco and Petsmart don’t carry them; you have to go to a vet. Fortunately, I found a way around that. 8) There’s a new pill my vet recommended called Comfortis, or something like that. Anyone familiar with it?

      I worked at both Petsmart and Petco- and we carried Frontline, Advantage, and Advantix. You had to ask an employee for it though as we kept it locked up. At Petsmart, all you had to do is ask at the in-store vet clinic, Banfield. Did they stop carrying them…? O_o

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      #724224
      Rusti
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        Kyrin wrote:

        Only use Frontline or Advantage on your pets! Everything else is poisonous…especially the over the counter “like Frontline” crap.

        Watch out for wormers too, there is only one you can get at a pet store that is safe and is the same as what you get from the vet. I’ll get the name for you later.

        Kyrin

        Yes! Even the Hartz wormers can kill. That was one of the ones I witnessed first hand. The dewormer was given to a 40 pound mixed dog and it just stopped the poor thing’s heart.

        Panacur and Strongid are safe wormers, and you can get them either from the vet, or a farm supply store. The best wormer though is Drontal, which kills everything in one pill (though it is a bit expensive) and is only available from the vet.

        Definitely stay away from OTC flea and tick products like the plague, and get your meds from the vet!!

        #724225

        I haven’t been to Petco in years, so they may have started carrying it since I last went. Or some Petcos may carry it while others don’t. You are right, Jennifer, on Petsmart. What I meant was their store doesn’t carry it directly, only their vet, and since I buy it on weekends that doesn’t work for me. 😕 Pet Food Express carries it, though! 😀

        #724226
        drag0nfeathers
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          Luckily for me and my kitty she’s acting pretty normal today. She’s actually laying right by my computer as I type! I’m so happy she seems to have bounced back so quickly. Especially given her age. I keep dreading when they all start go downhill on me since all my cat’s now range between 13 and 20 years old.
          She’s currently being spoiled rotten since her mommy has such a guilty conscience for giving her Hartz in the first place. She just finished off a can of sardines and is looking quite satisfied at the moment.

          From now on I will ALWAYS spend the extra money and go with Frontline!!! That’s what I usually always use, but I grabbed Hartz in a pinch assuming it was just like Frontline, only that it obviously didn’t really work nearly as good considering the price difference. She didn’t have fleas anyway so I figured it would be perfect just for a precaution. Only now I realize that it wasn’t the quantity of ingredients or dosages, but what the actual ingredients were that make them so different. I’m still mad at myself for not checking into it earlier, but who the hell keeps this crap on the shelves I have no freaking clue! How the heck is Hartz still in business considering the active ingredient in their products is Phenothrin!

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          #724227

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenothrin

          For those of you who want to know, this is what the evil wiki says on phenothrin. Obviously they haven’t stopped selling cat flea and tick killers with phenothrin (if your cat just had a reaction to drops with that in it), but the chemical stuff seems about right.

          However the chemical structure is rarely a clue as to how safe it is. Many scents, such as cinnamon, include many aromatics (the 6 membered ring, hexagon, whichever) and something that had an almost similar structure could have been just fine, only patented. And sometimes changing the orientation of the atoms can really mess with how something works, for instance, the cancer drug cisplatin,
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisplatin
          only works in the so-called cis orientation, where the Cl groups are on the same side of the Pt. If they were opposites, it wouldn’t work. And they both have the same chemical formula, and the same connectivity.

          Not saying that it’s an excuse for them, but… random factoid from the person who loves chemistry. 😀

          #724228

          You can also order your flea and tick control or dewormer online thru just about any pet supply store or petmeds.com If it’s a prescription medicine they will have it authorized through your Vet.

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          #724229
          Rusti
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            khat7 wrote:

            You can also order your flea and tick control or dewormer online thru just about any pet supply store or petmeds.com If it’s a prescription medicine they will have it authorized through your Vet.

            I wouldn’t recommend ordering anything from any online pharmacy. There’s no telling what they put into their drugs and the pharma companies will not guarantee them if you buy them from these places.

            So if you are giving your pet meds from places like petmeds.com, you are doing it at your own risk.

            #724230
            Jennifer
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              Rusti wrote:

              khat7 wrote:

              You can also order your flea and tick control or dewormer online thru just about any pet supply store or petmeds.com If it’s a prescription medicine they will have it authorized through your Vet.

              I wouldn’t recommend ordering anything from any online pharmacy. There’s no telling what they put into their drugs and the pharma companies will not guarantee them if you buy them from these places.

              So if you are giving your pet meds from places like petmeds.com, you are doing it at your own risk.

              How can that be? They are simply a reseller of brand name products like Frontline. Only the makers of Frontline should be able to change the ingredients of the drugs.

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              #724231
              Purplecat
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                that was my thought too….we get all our standard meds from an online pet pharmacy…and I’ve never recieved any tampered with frontline…the company packaging is always good. 😕

                #724232

                Jennifer wrote:

                Rusti wrote:

                khat7 wrote:

                You can also order your flea and tick control or dewormer online thru just about any pet supply store or petmeds.com If it’s a prescription medicine they will have it authorized through your Vet.

                I wouldn’t recommend ordering anything from any online pharmacy. There’s no telling what they put into their drugs and the pharma companies will not guarantee them if you buy them from these places.

                So if you are giving your pet meds from places like petmeds.com, you are doing it at your own risk.

                How can that be? They are simply a reseller of brand name products like Frontline. Only the makers of Frontline should be able to change the ingredients of the drugs.

                I was referring to buying brand name products like frontline or advantage. They aren’t any different than what the vet sells. We also get heartgaurd and Novox that way. Weve used Petmeds or KV vet supply for years and never had a problem

                #724233

                Rusti wrote:

                khat7 wrote:

                You can also order your flea and tick control or dewormer online thru just about any pet supply store or petmeds.com If it’s a prescription medicine they will have it authorized through your Vet.

                I wouldn’t recommend ordering anything from any online pharmacy. There’s no telling what they put into their drugs and the pharma companies will not guarantee them if you buy them from these places.

                So if you are giving your pet meds from places like petmeds.com, you are doing it at your own risk.

                Maybe she was referring to the brands that they sell exclusively? Things that aren’t frontline, or whichever brand names you people have been recommending, but like the…

                *thinks*

                In stores like Co-Op they have the Co-op brand, that’s different then the brand name stuff, it’s called a no-name brand here I think.

                #724234
                Rusti
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                  Jennifer wrote:

                  Rusti wrote:

                  khat7 wrote:

                  You can also order your flea and tick control or dewormer online thru just about any pet supply store or petmeds.com If it’s a prescription medicine they will have it authorized through your Vet.

                  I wouldn’t recommend ordering anything from any online pharmacy. There’s no telling what they put into their drugs and the pharma companies will not guarantee them if you buy them from these places.

                  So if you are giving your pet meds from places like petmeds.com, you are doing it at your own risk.

                  How can that be? They are simply a reseller of brand name products like Frontline. Only the makers of Frontline should be able to change the ingredients of the drugs.

                  There have actually been reports of Frontline not being what it was supposed to be when it was tested. I’d go look for sources, but I’m exhausted.

                  But the heartworm prevention, if not purchased from your veterinarian, IS NOT GUARANTEED by the pharma company. If you’re buying from petmeds.com and your dog happens to come down with heartworms while on that prevention, the maker of the prevention will not pay for the treatment, where as if you were buying the HWP from your vet, and the dog came down with heartworms, the company would cover the cost.

                  For this reason alone I wouldn’t buy from an online pharmacy like that. If the medication happens to not work, especially in a case so expensive to treat as heartworms, I would want that drug guaranteed to work, or the treatment paid for.

                  Edit: here’s a vet clinic’s website that explains what I left out. Scroll to the bottom of the page and it’s under “Important information”. http://www.pittsboroanimalhospital.com/newsletterpromotions.html

                  I’ll keep looking for more.

                  #724235
                  Jennifer
                  Keymaster

                    Great info, and it makes sense. Thanks Rusti! I’ve never purchased online- now I know not to.

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