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Arlla wrote:
Well…okay…but what does this ultimately mean for Purplecat?? It wasn’t the repaints that were the problem, it wasn’t her selling them that was the problem…it was her style of painting??? It’s a lot easier to stop painting than it is to change your style.
If you have an airbrush, and you’re painting on a Windstone sculpture….um…is there ANY way to paint it so that it doesn’t resemble official Windstones?? (talking production and PYO pieces here) I mean, besides maybe painting in neon colors or big gaudy stripes or something… Is we going to be in trouble as long as we use an airbrush?I had been wondering the same thing (though from an academic point of view, since I’m not an artist).
Well, that one person (sorry I forget who) got in trouble on a PYO dragon because it looked like the BEP SK. What are the limits to what we can do? I got my hubby an airbrush for his birthday, so he can start painting PYOs to sell on Ebay. Is he going to get in trouble if he inadvertantly paints something that may remotely resemble a Windstone color?
Well, if its the “style” that’s a problem, then I wonder if it would also be a problem if the “style” is similar to Windstone even if the color scheme is different?
Purplecat’s color schemes were completely different from Windstone’s but the objection was that the “style” was similar to Windstone’s.
mimitrek wrote:Arlla wrote:Well…okay…but what does this ultimately mean for Purplecat?? It wasn’t the repaints that were the problem, it wasn’t her selling them that was the problem…it was her style of painting??? It’s a lot easier to stop painting than it is to change your style.
If you have an airbrush, and you’re painting on a Windstone sculpture….um…is there ANY way to paint it so that it doesn’t resemble official Windstones?? (talking production and PYO pieces here) I mean, besides maybe painting in neon colors or big gaudy stripes or something… Is we going to be in trouble as long as we use an airbrush?I had been wondering the same thing (though from an academic point of view, since I’m not an artist).
I think that’s about the gist of it, because an airbrush job on a windstone statue will fit in with other windstones and could possibly be mistaken for an original minus the felt….I tried my best to be safe and work with these so that there wouldn’t be any problems but well….here we are….jobless with a bunch of broken dragons….Style is a mental thing and I don’t think I can just do a switcheroo on my painting style, plus I’m not entirely sure that would help. Most companies aren’t going to like it if their original pieces can be fixed up and sold for more than the regular price…not to their fault of course, but it is the way things are and that is why John referred to what I was doing as profiteering. I was indeed making quite a profit, for a while…. 😥
purplecat wrote:….here we are….jobless with a bunch of broken dragons….
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…that is why John referred to what I was doing as profiteering. I was indeed making quite a profit, for a while…. 😥
Are you sure? I’d check with him on that, I think. 🙂
It seemed as if you were making a business out of it (after all, you just called it your job), instead of it being a hobby or a ‘repaint here and there’. Certainly Windstone doesn’t have a problem with people reselling pieces. Look at eBay! Keeping the value high is a good thing both for us as collectors and for the company. 🙂
To everyone:
To those concerned when painting a PYO with an airbrush, why not experiment? It’s easy to see the sweeping colors that are so easy to apply with good airbrush technique and think “this is how it should be done”. I beg to differ! 🙂 Search google or your favorite search engine for airbrush artists. There are many techniques you can use that will not produce results that ‘look like a production paint job’. Or, you could put some nice layers down of color with your airbrush, then go in and really make a really spectacular piece by detailing with paintbrushes! 😀Honestly, we (as a group) have seen hundreds of amazing and original ideas come out of the PYO line, and have only had very, very few problems with something that might cross the line (such as the PYO painted to look like the BEP Secret Keeper). I have utmost confidence that you guys will continue to make really amazing pieces born of your own creativity. 🙂
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My art: featherdust.comAh, I think that was taken a bit differently than I meant it…Yes, I probably shouldn’t have been doing enough repaints that it was becoming part of my income. I was having alot of comissions and there are sadly alot of poorly treated older windstones out there. However, I meant it more that I found it hard to airbrush these so that they DIDN’t fit in and look like a windstone piece…maybe a lack of creativity on my part but still…although repaints are ok on some level, doing them in larger quantities for resell is not something I think would be overlooked (due to my experience here). I’m playing a little with incorporating more brushwork in the pieces for myself as I still love painting these fellows although I can’t re-sell. Sorry if my previous comment was taken as being gripey… 🙄
It’s totally okay! 🙂 We are all learning here and as they say, that’s half the battle. 🙂
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My art: featherdust.comBut the money you made off you repaints went into getting windstones for your collection. By telling you that you can’t do them anymore they have taken a chunk out of their own pay check because now you can’t buy anymore.
And now how am I do get cute little repainted fledglings??
I still think it’s stupid… That is all…
It sounds like the complaint was not from Windstone 😕 (don’t answer, moving on)
1) have you looked into doing custom airbrush jobs on other stuff? I have a friend who paid quite a bit to have a scene painted on his motorcycle … maybe you could advertise locally? Or even do custom license plates?
2) as to your stash of broken dragons… if you have a white scratcher (or even a white lap) I would pay you to repair & restore him (I don’t have to have mint condition as long as it looks right 🙂 and for some of us this is a more viable option for purchasing retired pieces)Purplecat, before this thread gets shut down, I just want to say that in my opinion, your repaints were truly beautiful, original, OOAK color schemes which required a great deal of creativity and original thought, and while the style of them may have been close enough to the “look” of factory made Windstones to get them to make you stop, they were still the work of an ARTIST. Speaking as one of many other artists out there, I am insulted by anyone who calls you differently. May your talent find another outlet soon, for all our sakes! And I hope you use this as a spring board for improving your already gorgeous painting.
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-J R R Tolkienboskydragon wrote:It sounds like the complaint was not from Windstone 😕 (don’t answer, moving on)
1) have you looked into doing custom airbrush jobs on other stuff? I have a friend who paid quite a bit to have a scene painted on his motorcycle … maybe you could advertise locally? Or even do custom license plates?
2) as to your stash of broken dragons… if you have a white scratcher (or even a white lap) I would pay you to repair & restore him (I don’t have to have mint condition as long as it looks right 🙂 and for some of us this is a more viable option for purchasing retired pieces)Harder to find colors (white, emerald, old green) I don’t paint over at all if they can be fixed because they would be near irreplaceable. I stick to peacock and black golds which tend to be alot of them and they’re the colors I find damaged the most. THank you so much for the support here, I’ll keep trying out new stuff til I find my niche. Thanks again guys for all the support here, I appreciate it.
emerald212 wrote:Arlla wrote:Purplecat, before this thread gets shut down, I just want to say that in my opinion, your repaints were truly beautiful, original, OOAK color schemes which required a great deal of creativity and original thought, and while the style of them may have been close enough to the “look” of factory made Windstones to get them to make you stop, they were still the work of an ARTIST. Speaking as one of many other artists out there, I am insulted by anyone who calls you differently. May your talent find another outlet soon, for all our sakes! And I hope you use this as a spring board for improving your already gorgeous painting.
Here! Here! I completely agree with Arlla. 🙂
I totally agree also! 🙂
boskydragon wrote:It sounds like the complaint was not from Windstone 😕 (don’t answer, moving on)
1) have you looked into doing custom airbrush jobs on other stuff? I have a friend who paid quite a bit to have a scene painted on his motorcycle … maybe you could advertise locally? Or even do custom license plates?
2) as to your stash of broken dragons… if you have a white scratcher (or even a white lap) I would pay you to repair & restore him (I don’t have to have mint condition as long as it looks right 🙂 and for some of us this is a more viable option for purchasing retired pieces)Unfortunately art is particularly hard to sell here locally…It’s seen as kindof a “joke” profession 🙄 and if I could I’d love to try out motorcycle airbrushing, but the license plates and t-shirt airbrushing isn’t interesting for me at all….That’s one of the downsides of living in the middle of nowhere. There’s really no customers here, and it’s not like you can have someone mail you their motorcycle… Lexington is the biggest nearby city and it’s beautiful but a joke compared to some of the major cities in other states. I love the beauty of the land and my family is here…There’s ups and downs no matter where you live. 8)
Arlla wrote:Purplecat, before this thread gets shut down, I just want to say that in my opinion, your repaints were truly beautiful, original, OOAK color schemes which required a great deal of creativity and original thought, and while the style of them may have been close enough to the “look” of factory made Windstones to get them to make you stop, they were still the work of an ARTIST. Speaking as one of many other artists out there, I am insulted by anyone who calls you differently. May your talent find another outlet soon, for all our sakes! And I hope you use this as a spring board for improving your already gorgeous painting.
YEAH!!!! My point..but I was angry at the time. Purplecat is a fantastic artist!!!
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