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That really sucks. I’m sorry purple. And I was all set to gloat over winning the Green/Silver Male you had on e-bay. I’ll make sure he has a place of pride in the collection.
Oh, ouch. Darn it, I am really sorry to see you down, PurpleCat. 🙁 I suppose it’s a very backhanded compliment that your painting style is considered good enough to cause confusion with Windstone originals. You are extremely gifted, and I’m glad to hear that you’re thinking about keeping on with the PYOs. You’ve seemed to really enjoy creating these lovely paintjobs, and I hate to think that you might lose that.
Having no experience with the airbrush, I could not say if this is a practical suggestion or not, but . . . would it help to do your base colors with the airbrush, and then use an ordinary brush to apply detailing on top? Adding some shadings and tipping of additional color would camouflage the sweeps of airbrush color and make it look less like a production piece. It’s only a suggestion, though; I don’t know if the thought of altering your style is upsetting to you. It’s a rather personal thing.
Hang in there!
Oh my! How horrible!!! I can’t believe that whoever got that dragon complained!
Well….I don’t know if it is still allowed, but maybe you could still at least get commission repaints from forum members who understand the particulars about repaints. Just no ebay selling. I really wanted one from you!! *pout* Now I wish I bid on that Lap!!!!
Why do people have to ruin things like that for everyone else who really loves and appreciates them.
I understand Windstone’s standpoint completely though and I guess they didn’t have much choice in the matter. Still it’s just s crappy situation. I’m so sorry purplecat! Like SPark said, maybe if you didn’t airbrush they wouldn’t be as confusing, but your auction CLEARLY state that they are repaired repaints.
Got a busted Windstone?
drag0nfeathersdesign@gmail.com
*OPEN for repairs**SEEKING GRAILS*
Arc-en-ciel Emperor
Siphlophis Male Dragon
Calypso Hatching Empress
Ivory Moss Sitting Baby Kirin
Tattoo Mother Kirin
Emerald Tabby Male Griffin
Tie Dye + Orion Hatching Royalty
Indigo Rockfish + Flame Tabby Little Rock Dragons
Dragon Quail + Obsidian Frost Old Warriors
Betta Sun Dragon + Male Dragon
Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry DragonsThis is just CRAPPY! If they don’t want you doing repairs and repaints on your own….then they should send you a paycheck and let you be the special repair person for broken Windstones.
Melody and all of the staff at Windstone…this is silly! I protest! You need to work out an arrangement with purplecat! This is unfair and unreasonable!!!!
I think she is the best artist I have seen besides the artists at Windstone. Please don’t break her spirit, please try to do something that can be a compromise!!!!
Why would someone as talented as Melody turn away a fellow artist? I am bewildered and upset.
Purplecat is there any reason you can’t do specifically requested repaints…like in my case. I want a damaged piece repainted?
PLEASE SOMEONE AT WINDSTONE GET SOME SENSE!!!!!
Maybe if we all called and complained? Anyone up for that? I have spent a LOT of money in the past few months at Windstone directly…and referred others there as well….I have spent at least $2000 in the last two months on New Windstones.
If the customers all stand up and say something maybe we can get this injustice rectified!!!!!
Although deep down I feel that way too, I also think Windstone is compleely justified for it’s decision. Ebay is tricky like that, but I think Purplecat should at the very least be allowed to continue her work for comissions…there has to be some sort of acknowledgement from the buyers though that they KNOW FOR A FACT that are NOT Windstone’s paintjobs and they are completely fan painted.
I have done repaints before as well, but only if I couldn’t fix the piece. I never sold them and just kept them for myself. That’s where all the problems come in. Is actually selling them.
As far as personal comissions through here though, I really dont see what so wrong about that in the very least. That way Windstone isn’t affiliated with them in any way and Purplecat can keep buying Windstones and selling PYOs on ebay. So everybody kind of wins and looses just a little bit.
Got a busted Windstone?
drag0nfeathersdesign@gmail.com
*OPEN for repairs**SEEKING GRAILS*
Arc-en-ciel Emperor
Siphlophis Male Dragon
Calypso Hatching Empress
Ivory Moss Sitting Baby Kirin
Tattoo Mother Kirin
Emerald Tabby Male Griffin
Tie Dye + Orion Hatching Royalty
Indigo Rockfish + Flame Tabby Little Rock Dragons
Dragon Quail + Obsidian Frost Old Warriors
Betta Sun Dragon + Male Dragon
Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry DragonsAdaraSky wrote:Who in the world was complaining about your beautiful artwork? 😡
I want to know that too??
drag0nfeathers wrote:Although deep down I feel that way too, I also think Windstone is compleely justified for it’s decision. Ebay is tricky like that, but I think Purplecat should at the very least be allowed to continue her work for comissions…there has to be some sort of acknowledgement from the buyers though that they KNOW FOR A FACT that are NOT Windstone’s paintjobs and they are completely fan painted.
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That is absolute Bull$%*^*, It was VERY VERY clear in her ebay auctions that these were repaints and repairs….absolutely no mistaking them for originals unless the person bidding was illiterate.
AND IF YOU CAN NOT READ OR WRITE THEN YOU SHOULDN’T BE PURCHASING ITEMS ON EBAY!
I think it is RIDICULOUS that someone can’t actually read the whole description of an auction before they place a bid.
This whole deal is STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!!!!
So sad that there will be trashed windstones, thet wont be repaired…if no one is willing to repair them then they will get thrown away. And no artist works for free!
Keshete… please do not attack Windstone. I’ve been upset at them before, when I didn’t really understand what they were doing, but I can assure you that they aren’t doing this because they love slapping down artists.
You are not a lawyer. Neither am I, but they’ve told us over and over again that they don’t go after artists because they want to, they have to in order to protect their copyright and stay in business.
And once something is sold… it’s out there. No matter how much it says all over the auction that’s it’s a repaint, the first seller can’t guarantee that they buyer will identify it correctly if they sell it, or maybe the next person, or the next. Windstones change hands a lot, and when they look pretty much exactly like factory test paints, well…
There’s nothing wrong with repairs and restorations, so it’s not like all broken Windstones have to be thrown away. Restore them to new, or repaint privately. It’s just repainting for public sales that’s the trouble.
well first of all why can’t PC become a Windstone Atrist like Nam??? She could put out special editions and have Windstone sell them and use their OWN words on the e-bay description so there can NOT be any confusion??
Second why can’t you just do the PYO’s and sell them on e-bay??
The PYO’s are different then the originals and NO ONE would ever be able to say they did to know since the PYO’s are slightly different then the actual Windstone painted pieces?? They are in different stances.keschete wrote:This is just CRAPPY! If they don’t want you doing repairs and repaints on your own….then they should send you a paycheck and let you be the special repair person for broken Windstones.
Melody and all of the staff at Windstone…this is silly! I protest! You need to work out an arrangement with purplecat! This is unfair and unreasonable!!!!
I think she is the best artist I have seen besides the artists at Windstone. Please don’t break her spirit, please try to do something that can be a compromise!!!!
Why would someone as talented as Melody turn away a fellow artist? I am bewildered and upset.
Purplecat is there any reason you can’t do specifically requested repaints…like in my case. I want a damaged piece repainted?
PLEASE SOMEONE AT WINDSTONE GET SOME SENSE!!!!!
Maybe if we all called and complained? Anyone up for that? I have spent a LOT of money in the past few months at Windstone directly…and referred others there as well….I have spent at least $2000 in the last two months on New Windstones.
If the customers all stand up and say something maybe we can get this injustice rectified!!!!!
yow! ok i totally second dragonfeathers in that windstone is totally justified to enforce whatever rules they like in regards to melodys art. that is the purpose of the pyos, so people could get their jollies of painting a windstone, without it being a production piece and interfering on their copyrights and reputation. while we know purples’ intentions are good and she loves and respects windstones, putting them up on ebay and visible to the whole world puts the idea out there that its totally ok for every other person ( like people who don’t care or know as much about windstone as we do) to do it too if they want.
remember the person that had the “custom painted” old warrior a couple weeks ago? that is a perfect example of someone outside of the forum seeing the profits made on repainted windstones and trying to get some for themselves and being wormy about it. how do you draw the line with who is allowed to repaint pieces and who isn’t? wheres the line for the paint jobs themselves? what about a partial repaint like that ow ( never mind her baloney tale about it) ? its too much b.s. for windstone to have to worry about. they are EXTREMELY accomodating to the collectors and we forum folk, putting out all this stuff we squeak for and it is the LEAST we can to do abide by the FEW rules they ask us to abide by. loooooooooooove melody and windstone! 🙂 if you love them, respect them and do as they ask and thats it, not push the limits of what one thinks is do-able. once again, we were given the pyos to appease the desire of repainting production pieces, but it has the potential to open the door for it instead.
again purple does some great repaints i love the pinks myself, they look slammin and it would be mighty cool if something comperable could be production, but i think its planting too much of a seed of something troublesome with them getting broadcasted on ebay, with the oh so similar to windstone airbrush work. it is wicked close, thats in part what makes them so pretty and natural, but one the same hand a little touchy.its a tough situation.people who aren’t super privvy to windstone could get confused on what is what, both original piece wise and rule wise as to what is pc in regards to painting. it is most fair and easiest to not permit it as a whole, rather than try to police it all.that way there is no discriminating, and tons of other baloney.
the last thing was a statement i remember from earlier in the thread.. something to the very loosely to the extent of ” well, if we bought it and own it, we can do what we will with it, its ours”. well on that note, i know how to make a darn good mold, so why don’t i make a mold of my ow, make castings, paint em and sell them as repaints and recasts? i paid good money for him, so i should get be able to do what i want with him. i can label him as a repaint and a casting i did myself, so that should make it ok, right? nosirree! i would DIE if someone did that to my art, even if they made it look better than i could paint, because it would totally confuse people not in the know of my work.
anyhoo, we all know windstone didn’t stop purple to crush her dreams and makes her cry because they are mean people, they are looking out for the work and the company as a whole and this may be the best way for them to control the situation before it has the potential to get crazy with “other” less well intended people doing it too.
perhaps one on one repaints of heavily damaged pieces could be permitted; say you ask her privately to repair/repaint a piece for you.something could get figured out in that regard, as you can’t leave a smashed up piece- which happens often enough by their nature- looking smashed forever! :)that wuldn’t be good and would look silly!
ok i think i’m done! that was my $5 worth (puts bag on head and runs…)SPark wrote:Keshete… please do not attack Windstone. I’ve been upset at them before, when I didn’t really understand what they were doing, but I can assure you that they aren’t doing this because they love slapping down artists.
I understand….but it makes me want to cry for purplecat. Her stuff is so beautiful and it is heartbreaking for me to see this happen to her. Maybe because I have one of her PYO’s and I treasure it so much….but you would think that Windstone could work out some sort of arrangements. She spent all that money buying damaged stuff….and it really seems unfair when she is completely clear about the auction.
And it isn’t like Windstone offers a program to repair their damaged pieces…
Wouldn’t that be an idea…hire some top notch artists to repair broken windstones…for a fee of course and then they have control over the copyrights?
Look at all those broken Emperors….
Ohh, this whole thing makes me so upset!!!!Purplecat…I am on your side!
keschete wrote:SPark wrote:Keshete… please do not attack Windstone. I’ve been upset at them before, when I didn’t really understand what they were doing, but I can assure you that they aren’t doing this because they love slapping down artists.
I understand….but it makes me want to cry for purplecat. Her stuff is so beautiful and it is heartbreaking for me to see this happen to her. Maybe because I have one of her PYO’s and I treasure it so much….but you would think that Windstone could work out some sort of arrangements. She spent all that money buying damaged stuff….and it really seems unfair when she is completely clear about the auction.
And it isn’t like Windstone offers a program to repair their damaged pieces…
Wouldn’t that be an idea…hire some top notch artists to repair broken windstones…for a fee of course and then they have control over the copyrights?
Look at all those broken Emperors….
Ohh, this whole thing makes me so upset!!!!Purplecat…I am on your side!
I started to write up a huge response to this, but I decided not to argue. I don’t think an official repair service would work, but unless you actually want to know my reasons, I don’t see the point in writing pages and pages of reasons why not.
I just hope purplecat keeps painting PYOs, because I want one. She really is a wonderful artist. I’m on her side too, but only in as much as I don’t think she’s a bad person, or did anything really wrong. And I’m on Windstone’s said as well, for the same reason.
SPark wrote:Keshete… please do not attack Windstone. I’ve been upset at them before, when I didn’t really understand what they were doing, but I can assure you that they aren’t doing this because they love slapping down artists.
You are not a lawyer. Neither am I, but they’ve told us over and over again that they don’t go after artists because they want to, they have to in order to protect their copyright and stay in business.
And once something is sold… it’s out there. No matter how much it says all over the auction that’s it’s a repaint, the first seller can’t guarantee that they buyer will identify it correctly if they sell it, or maybe the next person, or the next. Windstones change hands a lot, and when they look pretty much exactly like factory test paints, well…
There’s nothing wrong with repairs and restorations, so it’s not like all broken Windstones have to be thrown away. Restore them to new, or repaint privately. It’s just repainting for public sales that’s the trouble.
spark i super duper second you here. you can’t control what happens to the piece once it is out of the original hands and they DO get passed around alot!when painted with airbrush just like how windstone does, it is soo easily could be mistaken, once it goes through a couple of uninformed hands that also would like some good money and would see no reason why not to resell it as, in their minds, a special factory limited edition. and yes purple you should feel very flattered that your paint jobs look so close to theirs put that chin up high, their asking you to stop the airbrush jobs is a big compliment! 🙂 just refocus it on making some slammin’ pyos now! you see everyone is waiting to take a stab at one as soon as you have one for sale..
however, i do like the idea of repair service and it would be really cool if that could get worked out. though it would be a ton of extra work and baloney for them. where i used to work, jonas studios, they made pricey museum miniatures and trophies… they offered repair services on their pieces, so if a tail was broken or paint was worn, it could get fixed for a small fee. it was great- it made the collectors so happy and the company got a kick out of seeing old pieces back for a visit. hmmmmm…..I think Dragon Master has a good idea.
Could PurpleCat perhaps be able to get new dragons from the factory and do custom paint jobs and sell them on eBay like they do with Nam?
Not repaints, but actual sanctioned paintwork, with the same kind of agreement they have with the other artist, but with dragons?
Because, PurpleCat is good enough, and she really enjoys painting these, so it could be a possiblity, she would have to be limited, since she can crank these out a bit faster than Nam does the griffons, but still.
It’s something to consider. It would give her a source of income, allow her to keep painting Windstones, and be able to benefit Windstone as well. I see it as a win win.
This would also allow her to put in the gold accents and other cool details that are signature WE, but with her paint combos which are so awesome.
It has already proved out that there is a demand for this kind of customized OOAK pieces. So I think they should do it.
Wonder if John and Melody would agree, can’t hurt to ask, worst they could say is no, and considering PC’s level of skill, I think it would be a good way to offer more OOAK pieces. Though I’d suggest PC being limited to about 2 dragons a month, just to keep them in demand.
Downsides would be, she would no longer be able to sell the repaired repainted pieces, though according to Nam, trades are possible, just no sales or commission work.
I am not sure if it would affect PC’s commission work of PYO’s too or not, have to negotiate that, I guess.
Kyrin
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