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January 25, 2008 at 10:40 am #658984dracco wrote:
ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
January 25, 2008 at 1:17 pm #658985lamortefille wrote:dracco wrote:ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
Spending time reading out loud to a child is the best way for them to pick up on and learn to love reading themselves. He can also have more “wiggle” time or even act out parts of the story while you read.
Have you considered home schooling? My youngest of four was thought to be ADD. I never got him officially diagnosed. This was just the opinion of others who dealt with it 🙄
Homeschooling worked great for him as he could get up and move when he needed to. Sometimes concentrating on sitting still took more focus and energy and took away from studying!January 25, 2008 at 2:06 pm #658986Maybe finding a book that caters to his attention more….I know that we are letting Donovan start off with some older comic books, so that he has the visual stimulus to help keep him focused. (batman, fantastic four, etc, etc.) Sometimes, when he’s reading the comic, we’ll treat it like a play script and he’ll act out parts of it. He doesn’t have ADD, but is a super energetic kid who has a hard time focusing on stuff that isnt geared towards is energetic side. When you start out, reading is reading, just getting them to enjoy it, regardless of the format, is a major accomplishment. 😀
January 25, 2008 at 3:54 pm #658987Karate is a great idea as long as the sensei is good. A friend lived near a place where the sensei was into “karate is macho and we are better than everyone”. He pretty much trained bullies. I took karate for a couple of years from a sensei who was great with kids. He layed down the law – NO KARATE outside of class unless the kid was attacked. The kids could practice at home but if they EVER used it on a kid at school they were in BIG trouble. He made sure the kids knew he would check with the parents and he had the parents talk to the teachers. All the parents and the kids loved him – several parents had boys that were constantly in trouble in school until they started karate.
January 25, 2008 at 4:36 pm #658988ddvm wrote:Karate is a great idea as long as the sensei is good. A friend lived near a place where the sensei was into “karate is macho and we are better than everyone”. He pretty much trained bullies. I took karate for a couple of years from a sensei who was great with kids. He layed down the law – NO KARATE outside of class unless the kid was attacked. The kids could practice at home but if they EVER used it on a kid at school they were in BIG trouble. He made sure the kids knew he would check with the parents and he had the parents talk to the teachers. All the parents and the kids loved him – several parents had boys that were constantly in trouble in school until they started karate.
We also did that for our kids. It was a great outlet for energy and a confidence builder. The younger two have been taking martial Arts for seven years.
January 25, 2008 at 6:41 pm #658989lamortefille wrote:dracco wrote:ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
actually no im not an avid reader to this day. i went back to my old ways and i prefer movies (lots of them), but both of my girls love to read.
you can try the point system or the money system i told u about. each day he behaves he earns a little and at the end of the month he gets to go get somthin special or go somewhere special.it may encourage him to behave just so he can earn as much as he can so he can go get that somthin special.each day he misbehaves he gets nothing or depending how that day went minus some of those points.he wont like that especially when theres somthin he may already have in mind.
who knows it may be worth a try,plus you can still do the reading and something active too.this is just somthin you can add to it.January 25, 2008 at 8:02 pm #658990khat7 wrote:lamortefille wrote:dracco wrote:ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
Spending time reading out loud to a child is the best way for them to pick up on and learn to love reading themselves. He can also have more “wiggle” time or even act out parts of the story while you read.
Have you considered home schooling? My youngest of four was thought to be ADD. I never got him officially diagnosed. This was just the opinion of others who dealt with it 🙄
Homeschooling worked great for him as he could get up and move when he needed to. Sometimes concentrating on sitting still took more focus and energy and took away from studying!I’m not sure if this was meant for me or Kyrin? Maybe the first part is for me? I did read books to my kids when they were little. My daughter is more of a reader than my son. I was just wondering if “bribery” had long term effects. 😉
January 25, 2008 at 8:11 pm #658991dracco wrote:lamortefille wrote:dracco wrote:ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
actually no im not an avid reader to this day. i went back to my old ways and i prefer movies (lots of them), but both of my girls love to read.
you can try the point system or the money system i told u about. each day he behaves he earns a little and at the end of the month he gets to go get somthin special or go somewhere special.it may encourage him to behave just so he can earn as much as he can so he can go get that somthin special.each day he misbehaves he gets nothing or depending how that day went minus some of those points.he wont like that especially when theres somthin he may already have in mind.
who knows it may be worth a try,plus you can still do the reading and something active too.this is just somthin you can add to it.Thanks for the info….I guess some people are readers and others aren’t. I strictly limit tv and video time….other than that, all I can do is encourage him to read.
January 25, 2008 at 8:20 pm #658992Kyrin wrote:WolfenMachine wrote:Oh my goodness, Kyrin! WHAT A DAY you’ve had! 😯 Some of my friends in High School and Middle school had ADD…they were great fun to be around when they didn’t take their meds 😆 but they were all medicated. I’ve heard fish oil helps you focus. It’s stinky pills but they’re super cheap (boyfriend has ADD and takes it)
Personally, I get distracted VERY very easily, and I find if I can entertain more of my brain with simple, mundane tasks,I can focus better on the important things. Chewing gum or pacing or moving my feet under the chair helps, but certainly doesn’t always solve the problem.
I’m certainly no source for parental advice, but maybe confining him to his room isn’t the best idea. I can imagine, if he’s already mentally understimulated most of the time, taking away what stimulation he has might only make him frustrated and angry.
Maybe after dinner, before bed, you and him or he and your husband could go on a short little jog or a walk. Your husband could point out different kinds of plants and trees and brands of cars and that way he’d be physically stimulated (walking or jogging) and mentally stimulated (learning new tidbits of information, and bonding with Dad :D) or (I dont think they taught us addition till the first grade so I don’t know where kids these days are at, in their education at 6 yrs old) if he knows addition, quiz him in math while you’re walking. That way he can get all the shouting out answers out of his system 🙂 You could use trees and cars for the math…”2 cars in that driveway, plus 1 in this driveway…how many?”
I dunno, just a thought.
Congrats on your beautiful new Sun Dragon though! He’s gorgeous, and I can’t wait to see pics!
Right now we’re trying to get it into his head that when he does things like this, there are consequences. He hates time outs and situations where he is confined, so being in his room with no toys, etc, really brings it home to him that he messed up.
As for the walk idea, it might work in spring or summer, but right now it is 10 degrees outside with a wind chill bringing it down to 2, no thanks…too bloody cold out there!
Thanks for the advice and input. I have a book about ADHD with exercises for Alex and I to do that help with self control, self esteem, and various other things.
He’s a very bright intelligent kid, quick to pick things up. I wonder if he is just hyperactive and his acting up is a result of boredom, because he apparently finishes class assignments quickly, then acts up while he is waiting for the rest of the class to catch up. We do know that sitting still is a tough thing for him, but I question the accuracy of the diagnosis.
Anyway, we will see. I am working on getting him involved with Cub Scouts and hopefully karate, so that he has an outlet for all this extra energy. With luck that will help him, and we won’t be having all this drama going on.
Kyrin
Sounds like he isn’t challenged in school. If he’s finishing early, then he’s bored. Could they maybe give him harder problems or some one one tutoring in a more advanced area? My cousin had that problem when he was that age. The work wasn’t challenging enough so he acted up when he was done because he nothing better to do. I’m glad your dragon came today.Looking for Blue Fawn Baby Kirin
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Sun Dragon Koi #3January 25, 2008 at 8:22 pm #658993lamortefille wrote:dracco wrote:ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
It works. It’s how my mom got me to read and now I can’t put the book down 🙄Looking for Blue Fawn Baby Kirin
Sanguine Oriental Test Paints, kinglet
Sun Dragon Koi #3January 25, 2008 at 8:47 pm #658994setsunawolf wrote:lamortefille wrote:dracco wrote:ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
It works. It’s how my mom got me to read and now I can’t put the book down 🙄Cool…thanks for letting me know: -)
January 25, 2008 at 8:50 pm #658995lamortefille wrote:khat7 wrote:lamortefille wrote:dracco wrote:ill try a new answer that might help. does he like money ??? i think all kids do and they love to go to the store to buy somethin.i know my kids do.i remember my dad used to pay me to read books cause i hated doing it when i was younger,but i tell you what i got into those books and on top of that i got paid. maybe you can try a daily system .if he gets into no trouble he earns money or points towards something he really wants.
it doesnt have to be a big amount just a little at a time so he can look forward to saving for somthin and you dont go broke.I’ve thought about doing this with my son….paying him to read. Just wondering if you became a “reader” in the long run? Both his father and I are avid readers, but he doesn’t see the “magic” in books:-/ *sigh*
Spending time reading out loud to a child is the best way for them to pick up on and learn to love reading themselves. He can also have more “wiggle” time or even act out parts of the story while you read.
Have you considered home schooling? My youngest of four was thought to be ADD. I never got him officially diagnosed. This was just the opinion of others who dealt with it 🙄
Homeschooling worked great for him as he could get up and move when he needed to. Sometimes concentrating on sitting still took more focus and energy and took away from studying!I’m not sure if this was meant for me or Kyrin? Maybe the first part is for me? I did read books to my kids when they were little. My daughter is more of a reader than my son. I was just wondering if “bribery” had long term effects. 😉
yup 1st part was for u. i think bribery works great. my father also used to pay me for my report cards .the better the grade the more i would make.lets say i did pretty good in school. plus the schools bribe the kids too.when i was younger i busted my butt on the honor roll the whole year cause the reward was a trip to Kings Island, and i went too! my youngest daughter gets paid by the school for the honor roll, plus i pay them for their report cards too .A’s 1$,B’s .75,C’s .50 D’s and F’s nothing but a lecture but its never come to that.if they made the honor roll its a 10 dollar bill automatically.at the end of the year we add up the total times they made the honor roll and they get paid another 10 bucks per honor roll. so far its working great!
January 26, 2008 at 5:09 am #658996setsunawolf wrote:Sounds like he isn’t challenged in school. If he’s finishing early, then he’s bored. Could they maybe give him harder problems or some one one tutoring in a more advanced area? My cousin had that problem when he was that age. The work wasn’t challenging enough so he acted up when he was done because he nothing better to do. I’m glad your dragon came today.
Yeah, that was my conclusion as well, so I plan to talk to his teacher on Monday about finding activities he can do at his desk while he is waiting for the next activity to start.
He’s exceptionally bright, is a whiz at math, both on paper and in his head. Picked up reading really quick, though he claims to hate reading, he is still very good at it. He’s also very intuitive with regards to people, he has said the most surprising things in observation of others, both wise beyond his years and remarkably on target, it’s kinda bizarre.
He’s a very loving child, and really cares about others. I really love my son, and want him to have a fun life at school and elsewhere, and I worry that his hyperactivity and impulsiveness is going to isolate him from his peers and cause him problems.
We’re working on building a set schedule, I’m not an organizer, nor am I particularly set on a structured existance, but for him I am going to have to learn. I am also going to have be a much stricter parent than I ever planned to be, but I have to.
We;re also going to try to figure out what triggers his bad behavior and see if we can see a pattern in it, and possibly ways to help reduce his likelyhood of acting up. Along with keeping him always busy while at school. I also plan to get him into karate or similar martial arts, I really think it would be good for him, teach him self control.
We are also looking into non drug methods of treating his ADHD so that he doesn’t have to struggle so hard. A friend at work today suggested I read a book about biofeedback, and then to consider if it might help. Her son is ADD and she went through biofeedback 3 years ago with him and it has shown marked improvement and is still doing well now.
If we can use all these tools and methods to teach him self control and awareness of his overdriven “motor”, then I think he will be able to do very well in school.
So we’ve got strategies and ideas, just yesterday I was a bit distraught and upset, but this kind of thing has been building for weeks, I knew it was just a matter of time.
I just hope that we can help him avoid such things in the future.
He’s a good boy, he doesn’t mean to do these things, he just can’t help it. And you can tell he is trying to be good, but it’s just so hard for him. Sitting still is an impossible thing, he tends to jump up and run around every few minutes. You should see this kid “sit” on a couch, he shifts position every 30 seconds, and sits every which way, upside down being a favorite position.
Anyway, thanks for all the advice and support guys, it really helps. I’ll keep you updated. Today he didn’t move his flower out of the green pot, this is a “Yay Alex!” thing. Usually he moves to the yellow pot daily, so anytime he manages to stay in the green, its a good day.
Kyrin
January 26, 2008 at 5:29 am #658997“Yay Alex!” 😀 😀 You’re a good mum Kyrin! Alex is lucky to have you. Do you ever wonder what you did to get such good kids? I do, all the time 😀
twindragonsmum 😀
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January 26, 2008 at 6:18 am #658998kyrin just to let you know my brother had the same thing as a kid and he turned out a great guy and father of 2 boys. im very proud of him. hes the sweetest person i know. always thinks of others and loves his kids so much.
you are doing great by your son . my brother didnt have as much support and im glad he is the person he is today.your a fantastic mom !!! -
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