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I have an idea after seeing the nice paint job done by Serenity on the Amethyst colored Dragon.
How do you all feel about making alterations to a PYO sculpture by adding more gems or other objects to the dragon and/or base? Would it matter on how well something like this is done, or would it be frowned upon anyway?
I know people have put little gems and things on the PYO dragon where his tail curls into a little circle. I don’t see why adding something would be frowned upon as long as the PYO colour itself doesn’t resemble the official Windstone colours.
I think that you can’t alter the actual plaster shape, for example change the shape of the ears or the length of the tail. Adding gems and wings are not the same; it’s decorating, not altering. I think…
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http://www.sarahjestin.com/feedbacklists.htmdragonmedley wrote:I think that you can’t alter the actual plaster shape, for example change the shape of the ears or the length of the tail. Adding gems and wings are not the same; it’s decorating, not altering. I think…
Good to know. I did mean more along the lines of decorating with various items.
dragonmedley wrote:I think that you can’t alter the actual plaster shape, for example change the shape of the ears or the length of the tail. Adding gems and wings are not the same; it’s decorating, not altering. I think…
Didn’t Water add length to the wolves ears for one sculpt? I remember seeing it.
Yeah, I think it is allowed, since the PYOs are for us to do as we will, and if we want to redo ears, etc, we can. Kinda like those Breyer horses people remodel. You bought it, it’s yours, you can do what you want.
Kyrin
Kyrin wrote:Yeah, I think it is allowed, since the PYOs are for us to do as we will, and if we want to redo ears, etc, we can. Kinda like those Breyer horses people remodel. You bought it, it’s yours, you can do what you want.
Kyrin
Nope, I pretty much recall someone asked the question somewhere, and the answer was that PYOs are not like Breyers. Yes, Water did redo ears on a PYO wolf, and the first thing I thought when I saw it was that she probably shouldn’t have done it.
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http://www.sarahjestin.com/feedbacklists.htmLet’s take a look at Copyright and how it works. Copyright of something means it is your intellectual property, you invented/designed it, so no one can take credit for it, or profit from it. If they do, then you can take legal action.
However, part of copyright law also is, that if you modify something a certain percent then it is not infringing on copyright, because it has been changed enough to be considered different from the original. I’d have to look up the actual percentage written in the law, but I think it is as low as 10% change, but don’t quote me.
We may not like it, but if I drew a picture and someone took that picture and copied it, then added a bunch of stuff to it to make it theirs, as long as is met the percentage change in the copyright law, I would have no legal standing to do anything about it. But if they did very little to it, leaving it still recognizably my artwork, then I could, if they were claiming it was theirs and not mine.
But if they acknowledged it was mine to start with, then I could choose to look the other way, since they are still giving me credit that it was my intellectual property to start with, but of course I would be happier if they’d asked me first, but that is a courtesy and it’s not required and I can’t demand it.
But I could also have a fit about it and require they remove it from publication, and they would have to. But not in the case of if they had modified it that percentage rendering it different from the original.
In the case of PYO’s I would say if you aren’t modifying it drastically, then you would be in violation of copyright. So technically Water’s modification fits that category. However, since the company has allowed us the right to paint these and fiddle with them to a point, that may not really be a big deal, since it was mentioned that the PYO in question was a Windstone and that it had been modified a little from the original, so then you’re at that point of “choose to overlook it” or “require redress”.
Me, in the case of a PYO modification so small, I’d overlook it, as long as the modifier doesn’t say the whole sculpture was theirs.
So I guess I’ve kinda answered the question…decorating is okay, goes with painting it. Modification is questionable, unless the mods are drastic.
This is all from a legal standing based on how I understand Copyright law as written. How individuals and companies decide to use the law is their choice, and while I personally would overlook small things, some people and companies can not afford to, so must enforce the copyright law stringently. While I, as an individual artist who does not depend on my art for economical support can afford to be a little more forgiving.
Kyrin
No- I was told by John, who was told by their lawyer, that modification of any Windstone statue is NOT okay.
Addition of adornments such as glitter, gems, sequins, a piece of your jewelry, pretty much anything that is a decoration, should be all right. Stuff that is removable (in theory) and not part of the sculpture, should be all right.
Modifications to the sculpture create a problem of double copyright and Windstone does not want this to happen. i.e. adding clay (or apoxie or any modeling medium) to the sculpture to change it in any way (other than repairs obviously) is not okay. Originally it had been Melody’s thought that people could go nuts with these but sadly for legal reasons it cannot be allowed.
If you have any specific questions beyond this or if you want to talk to someone (or ask if your idea is okay) then you will need to contact John, as I do not have the authority or contact with the Windstone lawyer to properly answer or approve of any specific questions you may have on this. You can email John at john@windstoneeditions.com
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My art: featherdust.comOkay, but it would be alright to repaint say a peacock mother in whatever color so long as it is noted that the item has been altered by “x” artist… Yes?
azdesertgirl wrote:Okay, but it would be alright to repaint say a peacock mother in whatever color so long as it is noted that the item has been altered by “x” artist… Yes?
Windstone discourages the repainting of productions pieces as well for the same reasons they prefer no modifications (other than painting) be done to the PYOs. Repainting prodiction pieces makes it hard to identify fakes.
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