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  • #545405
    drag0nfeathers
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      Would direct contact with a product containing amonia affect the paint on a Windstone Sculpture? I’m just covering my bases before I try and experiment for a repair.

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      #489893
      drag0nfeathers
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        Got a busted Windstone?
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        Calypso Hatching Empress
        Ivory Moss Sitting Baby Kirin
        Tattoo Mother Kirin
        Emerald Tabby Male Griffin
        Tie Dye + Orion Hatching Royalty
        Indigo Rockfish + Flame Tabby Little Rock Dragons
        Dragon Quail + Obsidian Frost Old Warriors
        Betta Sun Dragon + Male Dragon
        Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry Dragons

        #545406
        Melody
        Keymaster

          drag0nfeathers wrote:

          Would direct contact with a product containing amonia affect the paint on a Windstone Sculpture? I’m just covering my bases before I try and experiment for a repair.

          DON’T use amonia on Windstones!
          Unless, of course, you want to remove the paint for some reason. It will soften the paint, but doesn’t seem to harm the underlying sculpture.. If you want to really get the paint off, use acetone.

          #545407
          drag0nfeathers
          Participant

            No I DON’T want to take the paint off! That’s been my problem, LOL! I’m going to try and make a new tail & feet for an Emperor Dragon thats is completely missing them, and I’m trying to get a basic shape by molding something around my Emperor’s tail from my personal collection, but I don’t want to harm it at all in doing so.

            Here is the poor fellow
            http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/drag0nfeathers/DSCN0646.jpg

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            Tattoo Mother Kirin
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            Tie Dye + Orion Hatching Royalty
            Indigo Rockfish + Flame Tabby Little Rock Dragons
            Dragon Quail + Obsidian Frost Old Warriors
            Betta Sun Dragon + Male Dragon
            Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry Dragons

            #545408
            Bob

              hehe
              Sorry but he looks funny without feet or a tail

              #545409
              drag0nfeathers
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                I can’t believe he still stands up on his own. Is there anything you can suggest for me to fix him?

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                #545410

                seeing your poor emperor makes me wonder if I can make a harmless mold and cast from my emperor’s feet an tail from the hydrostone I have, then ship it to you so you can apply it. Hydrostone seems to adhere extremely well straight onto the break (or so it does with my repaired pearl mother dragon).

                #545411
                drag0nfeathers
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                  See, That’s kind of what I was trying to do. I’m not trying to make a mold of an Emperor or anything copyright infringing, just a cast of the missing piece, I just don’t want to destroy another Emperor in the process. I bought this rubber mold stuff you are supposed to paint on the area, but it has amonia in it, hence why I was asking Mel about it. It just didn’t seem like a good idea to apply straight to a Windstone. I would think the paint would peel right off with it when I tried to remove it.

                  How do you do what you were saying. I’ve never heard of hydrostone

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                  Ivory Moss Sitting Baby Kirin
                  Tattoo Mother Kirin
                  Emerald Tabby Male Griffin
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                  Indigo Rockfish + Flame Tabby Little Rock Dragons
                  Dragon Quail + Obsidian Frost Old Warriors
                  Betta Sun Dragon + Male Dragon
                  Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry Dragons

                  #545412

                  drag0nfeathers wrote:

                  See, That’s kind of what I was trying to do. I’m not trying to make a mold of an Emperor or anything copyright infringing, just a cast of the missing piece, I just don’t want to destroy another Emperor in the process. I bought this rubber mold stuff you are supposed to paint on the area, but it has amonia in it, hence why I was asking Mel about it. It just didn’t seem like a good idea to apply straight to a Windstone. I would think the paint would peel right off with it when I tried to remove it.

                  How do you do what you were saying. I’ve never heard of hydrostone
                  Hydrostone is a real nice mineral stone that is either what windstones are cast in or just close to it (as an example). It doesn’t carve easily, but is managable with sharp tools. I used it to repair a chunk from my mother dragon’s tail ( http://www.unchartedart.com/junk/IMG_15122.JPG ) and I haven’t been able to pull it off by pushing at it, so it works very well.
                  As per your emperor, if what you bought says latex anywhere on it, it will have ammonia in it. I have silicone rubber arriving tomorrow that I’ll be testing on a damaged chunk from my emperor’s wing to see if it causes paint peeling. If it doesn’t I can recommend it or a plaster mold if it doesn’t work. But working in a reverse method, I’m sure a small rubber mold from the damaged area of your emp, I could make a plaster cast of that damage. Then I can make a rubber mold from my emp and fit that onto the damage mold, then cast the hydrostone fitting. Long process, I know, but he’ll have feet and a tail again!

                  #545413
                  Melody
                  Keymaster

                    drag0nfeathers wrote:

                    See, That’s kind of what I was trying to do. I’m not trying to make a mold of an Emperor or anything copyright infringing, just a cast of the missing piece, I just don’t want to destroy another Emperor in the process. I bought this rubber mold stuff you are supposed to paint on the area, but it has amonia in it, hence why I was asking Mel about it. It just didn’t seem like a good idea to apply straight to a Windstone. I would think the paint would peel right off with it when I tried to remove it.

                    How do you do what you were saying. I’ve never heard of hydrostone oh, I see.. hmm. How about that gelatin mold material? I’ve seen it in craft catalogues, it is used to make molds of your body parts. I think it is pretty harmless, although it would have some water in it.

                    #545414
                    drag0nfeathers
                    Participant

                      Hmmmmmm, both suggestions sound good. I’d like to try it myself ( I love fixing these guys and this will be my biggest challenge thus far ) I just need to know what materials I need ( and are safe to use ) on my Emperor to make a new tail and feet. I’ll have to look up that gelatin stuff Melody suggested.
                      If that doesn’t work I may be contacting you Algy. What would the cost of something like what you described run for if I had you try it?

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                      #545415

                      Silicone rubber is rather expensive, but I found a guy on eBay that sells it, just a half gallon of the stuff costs over $50. He only has a gallon of it listed right now: link
                      Hydrostone isn’t so bad though.
                      I offer to help in anyway, if you need it. 🙂

                      #545416
                      drag0nfeathers
                      Participant

                        Wow, those links are really helpful Algy. As soon as I get some extra money I’ll have to give it a try!

                        Got a busted Windstone?
                        drag0nfeathersdesign@gmail.com
                        *OPEN for repairs*

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                        Siphlophis Male Dragon
                        Calypso Hatching Empress
                        Ivory Moss Sitting Baby Kirin
                        Tattoo Mother Kirin
                        Emerald Tabby Male Griffin
                        Tie Dye + Orion Hatching Royalty
                        Indigo Rockfish + Flame Tabby Little Rock Dragons
                        Dragon Quail + Obsidian Frost Old Warriors
                        Betta Sun Dragon + Male Dragon
                        Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry Dragons

                        #545417
                        Melody
                        Keymaster

                          The only problem with silicone (besides the price!) is that it can sometimes have alot of silicone oil in it. Silicone oil contamination of the plaster part you are casting will prevent paint from sticking to it.Be sure to wash out your silicone mold well with alcohol before casting plaster into it.
                          Another tip; Wet the dragon’s feet and tail edges real good before pouring plaster against them, or the set part will draw too much water out of the newly cast part.This could weaken it,or even prevent it from setting properly.

                          #545418
                          drag0nfeathers
                          Participant

                            *blinks* Maybe I’m too inexperienced to tackle this! LOL

                            Got a busted Windstone?
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                            Siphlophis Male Dragon
                            Calypso Hatching Empress
                            Ivory Moss Sitting Baby Kirin
                            Tattoo Mother Kirin
                            Emerald Tabby Male Griffin
                            Tie Dye + Orion Hatching Royalty
                            Indigo Rockfish + Flame Tabby Little Rock Dragons
                            Dragon Quail + Obsidian Frost Old Warriors
                            Betta Sun Dragon + Male Dragon
                            Dreamscape, Orion, Poison Dart, Fireberry, Spangler + Tigerberry Dragons

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