A question about the Jades

[David]

starbreeze wrote:

I have the jade female oriental and an emerald male oriental and there really is a big difference. When I got them, they were each labeled with the appropriate color. I really do like the jade the best…

Am I reading this right? You have a green Oriental Dragon that is labeled on its box as being “Emerald”? I thought all the green Orientals were sold as “Jade”. All the ones I’ve seen (whatever color they actually were) had “-J” on the box, not “-E”.

[KoishiiKitty]

is.it.possible.that.this.jade.color.was.being.tested?

because…it.boggles.my.mind.how.different.it.is.from.emerald.
the.placement.of.gold.and.green.and.even.the.gold.used.seems.to.be.strikingly.different.

[Jennifer]

KoishiiKitty wrote:

is.it.possible.that.this.jade.color.was.being.tested?

because…it.boggles.my.mind.how.different.it.is.from.emerald.
the.placement.of.gold.and.green.and.even.the.gold.used.seems.to.be.strikingly.different.

The “Jade” color was part of the emerald coloration. Emerald is made of several layers of different colored painted, to achieve the color you know as emerald. The “Jade” dragons are ones that simply lack one or two (? I don’t know for sure, Melody or dark_zorse probably know!) of the colors that are applied to create emerald. Essentially they are ‘unfinished’ emerald pieces that someone apparently thought were finished and they antiqued ’em, added eyes, gems, horns, a pad, and a clearcoat and off they went!

It’s as if someone were painting a batch of say, emerald peacock dragons and forgot to apply the green, and shipped ’em off that way. They’d look a lot different!

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[dark_zorse]

Jennifer wrote:

KoishiiKitty wrote:

is.it.possible.that.this.jade.color.was.being.tested?

because…it.boggles.my.mind.how.different.it.is.from.emerald.
the.placement.of.gold.and.green.and.even.the.gold.used.seems.to.be.strikingly.different.

The “Jade” color was part of the emerald coloration. Emerald is made of several layers of different colored painted, to achieve the color you know as emerald. The “Jade” dragons are ones that simply lack one or two (? I don’t know for sure, Melody or dark_zorse probably know!) of the colors that are applied to create emerald. Essentially they are ‘unfinished’ emerald pieces that someone apparently thought were finished and they antiqued ’em, added eyes, gems, horns, a pad, and a clearcoat and off they went!

It’s as if someone were painting a batch of say, emerald peacock dragons and forgot to apply the green, and shipped ’em off that way. They’d look a lot different!

I’m in agreement with this. The jade color appears to be one of the base colors with the lighter colors being added on. What I am thinking, is a few batches of these dragons went out without the lighter grass-green on them that most finished emerald have. This I am hoping happened early in emerald production… if this is the case, there might be a good chance that our history samples might very well be jade! We will see later today when I have time to rifle through the history samples.

I will be posting pictures of the jade male I found (and hopefully any other jades that surface) tomorrow on the sneak peek thread. I forgot my camera today. 🙁

[Melody]

DZ found an old male dragon hidden on a shelf in an unused office that appears to be transitional between the emerald and jade color. It looks very much like Jade but has touches of the lighter “emerald” paint on it.

[Bob]

Melody wrote:

DZ found an old male dragon hidden on a shelf in an unused office that appears to be transitional between the emerald and jade color. It looks very much like Jade but has touches of the lighter “emerald” paint on it.

Any idea what FATE this OOAK Jade Male dragon might have??

[dark_zorse]

Dragon Master wrote:

Melody wrote:

DZ found an old male dragon hidden on a shelf in an unused office that appears to be transitional between the emerald and jade color. It looks very much like Jade but has touches of the lighter “emerald” paint on it.

Any idea what FATE this OOAK Jade Male dragon might have??

He is *not* OOAK. I am going to make sure he gets kept somewhere special as an example of a bizzare paint job, and entered in the windstone history collection, or kept as a sample. This proves what I was trying to say is true – that there are other jades out there other than the scratcher, male coiled, and hatching empress. Us collectors just need to be more astute in looking for them.

[Bob]

dark_zorse wrote:

Dragon Master wrote:

Melody wrote:

DZ found an old male dragon hidden on a shelf in an unused office that appears to be transitional between the emerald and jade color. It looks very much like Jade but has touches of the lighter “emerald” paint on it.

Any idea what FATE this OOAK Jade Male dragon might have??

He is not OOAK. I am going to make sure he gets kept somewhere special as an example of a bizzare paint job, and entered in the windstone history collection, or kept as a sample. This proves that there are other jades out there. You collectors just need to be more astute in looking for them.
So far he is the ONLY male in this color. So far no one has seen a Male in jade so that was why I said OOAK

[dark_zorse]

Dragon Master wrote:

dark_zorse wrote:

Dragon Master wrote:

Melody wrote:

DZ found an old male dragon hidden on a shelf in an unused office that appears to be transitional between the emerald and jade color. It looks very much like Jade but has touches of the lighter “emerald” paint on it.

Any idea what FATE this OOAK Jade Male dragon might have??

He is not OOAK. I am going to make sure he gets kept somewhere special as an example of a bizzare paint job, and entered in the windstone history collection, or kept as a sample. This proves that there are other jades out there. You collectors just need to be more astute in looking for them.
So far he is the ONLY male in this color. So far no one has seen a Male in jade so that was why I said OOAK

If I found one, there are bound to be more. He is probably not one of a kind, because thousands of emerald dragons were made at this factory. He’s the only one known in existence, but that does not preclude others out there. You guys on the board are a good lot of eyes and ears, more than we have here at the factory, so go find them. Once we have a lot of people looking, more are bound to turn up.

[Melody]

dark_zorse wrote:

Jennifer wrote:

KoishiiKitty wrote:

is.it.possible.that.this.jade.color.was.being.tested?

because…it.boggles.my.mind.how.different.it.is.from.emerald.
the.placement.of.gold.and.green.and.even.the.gold.used.seems.to.be.strikingly.different.

The “Jade” color was part of the emerald coloration. Emerald is made of several layers of different colored painted, to achieve the color you know as emerald. The “Jade” dragons are ones that simply lack one or two (? I don’t know for sure, Melody or dark_zorse probably know!) of the colors that are applied to create emerald. Essentially they are ‘unfinished’ emerald pieces that someone apparently thought were finished and they antiqued ’em, added eyes, gems, horns, a pad, and a clearcoat and off they went!

It’s as if someone were painting a batch of say, emerald peacock dragons and forgot to apply the green, and shipped ’em off that way. They’d look a lot different!

I’m in agreement with this. The jade color appears to be one of the base colors with the lighter colors being added on. What I am thinking, is a few batches of these dragons went out without the lighter grass-green on them that most finished emerald have. This I am hoping happened early in emerald production… if this is the case, there might be a good chance that our history samples might very well be jade! We will see later today when I have time to rifle through the history samples.

I will be posting pictures of the jade male I found (and hopefully any other jades that surface) tomorrow on the sneak peek thread. I forgot my camera today. 🙁 They weren’t unfinished Emeralds. They have different paint on them. The jade is characteristic because it has an unusual gold color on it that normal emeralds do not have. The painters would of had to get up and find the extra color of paint, and load it in their airbrush to put on, it is not a matter of just leaving a color off.
I am sure that they were intentionally painted to be Jade colored. If we find paint samples among the boxes off stuff we are digging through, we will be able to prove it, and know for sure which dragons were painted that way. . We always had a paint sample of each color for the artists to copy. However we may of thrown out those samples.
The transitional sample DZ found, in our old manager’s office, might easily be one of the first test paints of the early emerald color. We did start with the Jade color of green and develop the emerald from it by adding the lighter green. We have test paints everywhere.

[Bob]

Do you need me to come down and clean up those test paints?? You know I do tons of volunteer work

[KoishiiKitty]

Melody wrote:

dark_zorse wrote:

Jennifer wrote:

KoishiiKitty wrote:

is.it.possible.that.this.jade.color.was.being.tested?

because…it.boggles.my.mind.how.different.it.is.from.emerald.
the.placement.of.gold.and.green.and.even.the.gold.used.seems.to.be.strikingly.different.

The “Jade” color was part of the emerald coloration. Emerald is made of several layers of different colored painted, to achieve the color you know as emerald. The “Jade” dragons are ones that simply lack one or two (? I don’t know for sure, Melody or dark_zorse probably know!) of the colors that are applied to create emerald. Essentially they are ‘unfinished’ emerald pieces that someone apparently thought were finished and they antiqued ’em, added eyes, gems, horns, a pad, and a clearcoat and off they went!

It’s as if someone were painting a batch of say, emerald peacock dragons and forgot to apply the green, and shipped ’em off that way. They’d look a lot different!

I’m in agreement with this. The jade color appears to be one of the base colors with the lighter colors being added on. What I am thinking, is a few batches of these dragons went out without the lighter grass-green on them that most finished emerald have. This I am hoping happened early in emerald production… if this is the case, there might be a good chance that our history samples might very well be jade! We will see later today when I have time to rifle through the history samples.

I will be posting pictures of the jade male I found (and hopefully any other jades that surface) tomorrow on the sneak peek thread. I forgot my camera today. 🙁 They weren’t unfinished Emeralds. They have different paint on them. The jade is characteristic because it has an unusual gold color on it that normal emeralds do not have. The painters would of had to get up and find the extra color of paint, and load it in their airbrush to put on, it is not a matter of just leaving a color off.
I am sure that they were intentionally painted to be Jade colored. If we find paint samples among the boxes off stuff we are digging through, we will be able to prove it, and know for sure which dragons were painted that way. . We always had a paint sample of each color for the artists to copy. However we may of thrown out those samples.
The transitional sample DZ found, in our old manager’s office, might easily be one of the first test paints of the early emerald color. We did start with the Jade color of green and develop the emerald from it by adding the lighter green. We have test paints everywhere.

YES!.that.is.what.i.thought!!!!

when.i.look.at.the.two…i.do.not. see.how.the.jade.scratcher.couldbe.the.base.color.for.an.emerald…
because.the.of.the.color.placement….and.the.gold.used.is.completely.
different(like.you.say)even.though.the.emeralds.have.jade.color.in.them……..
these.jade.dragons.we.find.coming.up.have.a.very.finished.look.to.them…..
the.colors.are.spacificly.placed.and.look.complete(at.least.this.is.my.observation.of.them)
really,the.coloration.is.so. interesting.to.me.

[Jennifer]

Wow, interesting! But, every Emerald colored dragon I’ve witnessed (which haven’t been many, but has been more than a handful) contain this ‘jade’ color as part of their coloration. Wasn’t the “jade” color part of the Emerald’s makeup at all??

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[KoishiiKitty]

Jennifer wrote:

Wow, interesting! But, every Emerald colored dragon I’ve witnessed (which haven’t been many, but has been more than a handful) contain this ‘jade’ color as part of their coloration. Wasn’t the “jade” color part of the Emerald’s makeup at all??

they,do.seem.to.contaian.an.amount.of.jade…but.not.the.deep.gold.
emeralds.have.a.lighter.gold..
and.look.at.where.the.gold.is.put.on.the.jades.as.aposed.to.the.emeralds.(on.the.scratcher.that.is)

Jade,has.gold.on.nose.and.down.the.middle.back.scales..
on.the.upper.side.scales.
and.down.the.belly.and.on.the.lower.part.of.the.feet.
on.the.upper.inside.of.the.wings..and.on.the.top.feathers.on.the.outside.of.the.wings.

emeralds.look.to.have.gold.on.the.lower.feathers.on.the.back.of.the.wings..
as.well.as.on.the.lower.inside.of.the.wings..
and.the.gold.is.lower.on.the.side.scales.too.
almost.no.gold.on.the.lower.feet…
and.the.belly.gold.is.soft…instead,of.the.more.pearly.look.the.jade.has.

And.it.definately.is.two.fifferent.golds.used…the.gold.on.the.scratcher.i.have.not.seen.on.an.emerald.

[Melody]

Jennifer wrote:

Wow, interesting! But, every Emerald colored dragon I’ve witnessed (which haven’t been many, but has been more than a handful) contain this ‘jade’ color as part of their coloration. Wasn’t the “jade” color part of the Emerald’s makeup at all??

Yes, the emeralds have jade green as the dark green on them. The emerald color was first created on the Jade Orientals. The first emerald Orientals just had a stripe of the brighter emerald green on their sides,to look like a highlight, the rest being jade green. The emerald green regular dragons were, I thought, only painted AFTER we had already worked out the emerald color scheme on the Orientals.
The fact we painted some Jade regular dragons isn’t too odd, we would of test painted them that way. The weird part is that we clearly painted lots of them in the Jade color pattern, called them Emerald. and shipped them AFTER we had invented the Emerald color pattern… And nobody knew we did that!
Emeralds will vary in how much of the dark jade green they have on them. They were supposed to be about half and half, but I have found some emeralds that are very light green, with almost none of the darker shade. Each painter will vary the amount of color a little bit.

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