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So now that you’re running out of stuff to paint because of the gypsum issues, have you given any more thought to finishing your comic? I would love to read about the adventures of all the Poads running about!
Nirvanacat13 wrote:So now that you’re running out of stuff to paint because of the gypsum issues, have you given any more thought to finishing your comic? I would love to read about the adventures of all the Poad™s running about!
AHHHHHH! I want to! I am putting in ten or twelve hours painting special Windstone stuff so we have SOME income form ebay and the store.
I work on Reptangle every spare moment, but I am a total amateur at this, so I don’t know what I am doing.
Anyway, bitching and moaning aside, we were working on a website thing for it, but can’t put it online till our computer web guy gets done with all the other more important things he is working on, like the Windstone website and store.
Poads are only minor characters. Maybe I should re-write the whole thing. It also has the problem of being an “adult ” comic- not “dirty” ( that is easy to take out), but about adult subjects. I don’t know what to do.
What do you all think? Is having an childish but grown-up comic connected with Windstone a problem? I was trying to straddle the almost empty area in graphic novel story themes: one that isn’t a dark creepy evil story, but also is for grownups. Grown ups who are still kids. You know the type.
The small story bit I am working on right now is the part that is about the poad. It is ok for children, I think, though maybe a bit of nudity (nothing worse than the “Sea Jewel”) I could even take that out if you don’t like nudes with your poads. How strict are you folks with what you let your kids look at? I need some guidance here.Melody wrote:Nirvanacat13 wrote:So now that you’re running out of stuff to paint because of the gypsum issues, have you given any more thought to finishing your comic? I would love to read about the adventures of all the Poad™™s running about!
AHHHHHH! I want to! I am putting in ten or twelve hours painting special Windstone stuff so we have SOME income form ebay and the store.
I work on Reptangle™ every spare moment, but I am a total amateur at this, so I don’t know what I am doing.
Anyway, bitching and moaning aside, we were working on a website thing for it, but can’t put it online till our computer web guy gets done with all the other more important things he is working on, like the Windstone website and store.
Poad™s are only minor characters. Maybe I should re-write the whole thing. It also has the problem of being an “adult ” comic- not “dirty” ( that is easy to take out), but about adult subjects. I don’t know what to do.
What do you all think? Is having an childish but grown-up comic connected with Windstone a problem? I was trying to straddle the almost empty area in graphic novel story themes: one that isn’t a dark creepy evil story, but also is for grownups. Grown ups who are still kids. You know the type.
The small story bit I am working on right now is the part that is about the Poad™. It is ok for children, I think, though maybe a bit of nudity (nothing worse than the “Sea Jewel”) I could even take that out if you don’t like nudes with your Poad™s. How strict are you folks with what you let your kids look at? I need some guidance here.http://www.elfquest.com/ About all I’m gonna say on that one….You don’t HAVE to make it for kids…I’ve read a LOT of comic books and graphic novels in my time and there are just as many “adult” ones dealing with adult situations, Elf Quest just happens to be one of the more prominent series. You could also count SinCity, the Watchmen, quite a few of the Batman and Superman graphic novels as well. Even if you look in comic strips, while some are geared towards kids, the majority of them are grown up material; i.e. Dunesbury, Dilbert, Rex Morgan M.D., and even Zits to a degree, as it deals with teenagers from the parents point of view, deal with “grown up” issues and may not always be understood by kids. Sooooo I think it’s what you make it to be and you know you’ll always have a fan base with us! I’ll make all my geeky friends read them! =P
Also on a side note, I was browsing random profiles on ElfWood, and came across a guy in Portugal that did a “grown-up” graphic novel….I’ll see if I can find him again, that place is a mess if you don’t bookmark a page or know who you’re looking for 🙄 .
Oh, and then there was the Illustrated Graphic novel of Robert Asprin’s MythAdventures illustrated by Phil and Kaja Foglio (were VERY prominent artists for Magic: The Gathering which is how I found it originaly) and we all know Robert Asprin wasn’t the easiest read for a 10 year old….
Hope that all helps a little bit! Anyone feel free to chime in with some other examples!
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Cartoons, Comics, Anime and Manga (Japanese “Cartoons” and “Comics” respectively) are frequently for mature/adult audiences. It’s just so many people assume if it’s animated/drawn, it must be sutible for kids.
A few titles I can think of:
Æon Flux
Witchblade (comic, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchblade_(anime)]anime[/url], manga)
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Metal_(film)]Heavy Metal[/url]/Heavy Metal 2000
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(TV_series)]Spawn[/url]
Superman: Doomsday (PG-13)
Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme (PG-13)
Justice League: The New Frontier (PG-13)
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(film)]Wonder Woman (PG-13)[/url]
Batman: Gotham Knight (PG-13)
Green Lantern: First Flight (PG-13)
Superman/Batman: Public Enemies (PG-13)While the forums here are geared towards family, your products aren’t. I wouldn’t put a Windstone in a child’s hands. Same with your comic. It’s up to you what you want to do with it.
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http://www.sarahjestin.com/feedbacklists.htmpegasi1978 wrote:Æon Flux
Witchblade (comic, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchblade_(anime)]anime[/url], manga)
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Metal_(film)]Heavy Metal[/url]/Heavy Metal 2000
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(TV_series)]Spawn[/url]Ooohhh good ones!! Æon Flux happens to be one of my favorite wierd/psychotic comics! Have that deluxe full series set of the animated series, love watching that again and again!
For mature/adult comics, you could put all comics from Vertigo (an imprint of DC Comics) on the list…. these would include Watchmen, along with V for Vendetta, Hellblazer, Swamp Thing, House of Mystery, etc. they specialize in that kind of thing, instead of the usual ‘Superhero’ comics.
I would definitely check out Fables (a comic having to do with characters such as Snow White, Beast and Belle, Big bad wolf, etc. living in the real world) and Madame Xanadu (life and times of an immortal witch/psychic/sorceress). I don’t know if that’s what you’re going for, but they’re closer to the fantasy theme 🙂
Lol most of the comics my siblings read have some sort of gore and/or nudity. All they read are graphic novels. Some of these are Chobits, raman 1/2, Dragonball and other such novels popular with kids to young adult. It seems graphic novels are accessible to all ages regardless of content. My sisters can buy those books all day long and they are not 18.
Xtharsa wrote:Lol most of the comics my siblings read have some sort of gore and/or nudity. All they read are graphic novels. Some of these are Chobits, raman 1/2, Dragonball and other such novels popular with kids to young adult. It seems graphic novels are accessible to all ages regardless of content. My sisters can buy those books all day long and they are not 18.
I don’t know if I’d consider manga a true graphic novel per-se, though I know most can be graphic in nature 😀 , I think they qualify as their own seperate genre “manga”……..ok, kind of redundant, I know, I’m finaly coming down off a 14 hour migraine… 🙄
From Wikipedia-Manga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga
“After a series has run for a while, publishers often collect the stories together and print them in dedicated book-sized volumes, called tankōbon. These are the equivalent of U.S. trade paperbacks or graphic novels. These volumes use higher-quality paper, and are useful to those who want to “catch up” with a series so they can follow it in the magazines or if they find the cost of the weeklies or monthlies to be prohibitive. Recently, “deluxe” versions have also been printed as readers have got older and the need for something special grew. Old manga have also been reprinted using somewhat lesser quality paper and sold for 100 yen (about $1 U.S. dollar) each to compete with the used book market.”
See also ~ Wikipedia-Graphic Novel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_novel
“The evolving term graphic novel is not strictly defined, and is sometimes used, controversially, to imply subjective distinctions in artistic quality between graphic novels and other kinds of comics. It suggests a complete story that has a beginning, middle and end, as opposed to an ongoing series. It can also imply a story that is outside the genres commonly associated with comic books, or that deals with more mature themes. It is sometimes applied to works that fit this description even though they are serialized in traditional comic book format. The term is sometimes used to disassociate works from the juvenile or humorous connotations of the terms comics and comic book, implying that the work is more serious, mature, or literary than traditional comics.”
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dragonmedley wrote:While the forums here are geared towards family, your products aren’t. I wouldn’t put a Windstone in a child’s hands. Same with your comic.
Ditto that. You know, Melody, that whatever the comic ends up as, a good number of us will pounce on it just because it’s made by you. Still, we’re all adults here and would enjoy an adult-themed comic, I think.
dragonmedley wrote:While the forums here are geared towards family, your products aren’t. I wouldn’t put a Windstone in a child’s hands. Same with your comic. It’s up to you what you want to do with it.
I third this.
It sounds cool. And having a clean-ish comic for grownups that’s beautiful to look at and not ridiculously grim or angsty sounds very, very refreshing.
Aside from a little bit of Rumiko Takahashi’s work (Lum and Ranma 1/2) I never really got into comics. Seeing vital organs fly twenty feet (or similar stuff) disturbs me far more in graphic novel format than in written novels or even movies.
I don’t have kids, but hypothetically, assuming they were reasonably sensible, balanced kids, I wouldn’t mind them reading something that contains Sea Jewel type anatomy. (they’d see more in most art museums) Though I wouldn’t permit them to bring it to school where someone else could freak out. I’d also give or assist a kid in getting a Windstone, but it would be a major gift and they’d need to be old enough to comprehend and care that it’s a shelf critter and that gypsum does not equal rubber. Goodness knows I started drooling over Windstones when I was still quite young. Acquired a catalog that I remember had the Brown and Peacock dragons and just pored over it, despite my budget. While Windstones aren’t particularly kid-friendly, I’ve never seen them as kid-unfriendly.
For ‘official’ Maplecarver guidance (heh) trust your discretion and do what you think is best. On one hand, like everyone said, you shouldn’t have to water it down for the sake of not ruffling parental feathers. On the other hand, I doubt you’d be writing or drawing anything that will scar fragile little minds (or my mind) for life. If a scene feels ‘iffy’ to you, you can always run it past your kids.
IMO, it sounds great as-is. Though as a heads up, when we see some of the pretty beasties, you’ll probably hear a lot of squeaks for some of them in sculpture form. 😆
Edit: Heh, typed another essay. 😈
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