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This kind of news made me breathe a sigh of relief because not only is the research getting much farther (further?) in coming up with a cure, and it might show that vaccines aren’t the cause (which always made me feel like a bad mom allowing Chloe to get vaccinated). It is one of my fears as a new mommy that Chloe might get Autism.
I always thought autism was something a child was born with. I think it’s a coincedence that the symptoms show around the 2 yo boosters.
I’ve read there’s a higher incidence here in the Bay Area because of the “Geek Genes”.
It’s heartbreaking to see kids have to grow up like that.
I hope they can put an end to it!Why is it heartbreaking??
The child does not know any different.
If you lived 20-30 years then got it I can understnad Heart Breaking but not when it’s something from birth.My friends nephew has it nad has never known anything different. He is very happy.
It’s like my right eye. It did not completely develop before I was born. The best my sight in that eye has ever been was 20/80. I have a fuzz I always see
I wear glasses now for distance, sory I always get near and far sighted mixed up but in my case since my left eye was OK I KNOW what I have missed not being able to see out of the right eye but with both eyes I’m fine so it’s jsut something I learned to live with. I also have Eczema. I know I have to be careful and not use some things, it just becomes 2nd natureIt’s heartbreaking to me because I put myself in the childs or the parents shoes. It must be so hard to deal with.
I don’t believe the child doesn’t understand there’s something wrong. I think they know they are different. Same goes for Downs Syndrome kids. They know they are different.Phoenix wrote:It’s heartbreaking to me because I put myself in the childs or the parents shoes. It must be so hard to deal with.
I don’t believe the child doesn’t understand there’s something wrong. I think they know they are different. Same goes for Downs Syndrome kids. They know they are different.I do agree with you Pheonix because even though it might not be apparent to the child at first, it usually becomes a realization once they reach school. The other students might be blatant about it, the teachers might inadvertantly treat them different, and there are always clues that the student with the disability picks up. It’s sad to see because it would be nice to see these students being treated equal, but it’s not always so. Oh, there is also what you could call a “grading class” What I mean by that is that the smarter students are often treated differently from the “moderate grade” students to the “dumb” students. They treat eachother differently too. So if the ones who have disabilities tend to slip in that last group due to their disability, then they pick up on it fast.
It’s a tragedy for all. 🙁 I really do think you’re born with it. I don’t think there’s any connection to vaccines. 😕
Autism is not something you catch; you’re born with it. There are different degrees of autism, so the levels of functionality are different, and therefore diagnostic may be made much later.
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http://www.sarahjestin.com/feedbacklists.htmOk, here’s a chance to understand how it is from an autistic child’s point of view. This is hard for me to talk about, but I think that I tell a side of the story that is often missing. Sorry DM, I have eye problems as well, and they are nothing like this whatsoever.
When I was young I was diagnosed with Aspergers. My parents were pretty much told that I was retarded and wouldn’t amount to anything. My parents had to fight long, hard battles with the school administration and teachers to get me the help that I needed. My kindergarten teacher did not want me in her class when she fist heard about me, and my mother had to tell her that she needed to meet me and get to know me before she could judge me. My girl scout troup leader just hated me. I was teased by most of the kids I went to school with and spent my recesses wandering alone. Almost everyone in society pretty much labelled me as a retard and gave up on me. This was despite the fact that I could get A’s and B’s in my classes, was advanced in math, and had artistic talent. Believe me, I understood very well what everyone thought of me, and it hurt so bad that I didn’t want to interact with anyone.
My parents, however, never gave up on me. They did what it took to get the school to provide the help that I needed. I was taken out of class and forced to interact one-on-one with special ed. teachers, and I was left in public school and forced to interact with other kids.
I’m sure this process was slow and painful for everyone involved, but gradually it worked. I started to come out of my shell and gradually learned how to deal with people. I learned that I had many talents that others did not, and this helped boost my confidence. By high school I was rarely teased and I was able to deal with it when I was. I had staight A’s and was able to help out others. A couple years ago, I graduated from college and got a job as an engineer at Lockheed.
While every autistic child may not be capable of this (there are varying degrees of autism), I do want to say that there is definately more going on than most people would imagine.
eaglefeather831 wrote:This kind of news made me breathe a sigh of relief because not only is the research getting much farther (further?) in coming up with a cure, and it might show that vaccines aren’t the cause (which always made me feel like a bad mom allowing Chloe to get vaccinated). It is one of my fears as a new mommy that Chloe might get Autism.
Don’t stress..vaccines are safe. I have practiced pediatrics for over 11 years and I have never seen an autistic patient that had a legitimate claim that vaccines caused the problem. Most children develop symptoms of autism at around 18 to 24 months. This is the age when they receive the MMR vaccine.
But, how does that explain that more male children are affected by autistic syndromes than females? Also, why would it only be the 2nd MMR that causes the problem? Kids get their first MMR at 1 year.
The CDC had vaccine companies remove Thimerisol (mercury) from vaccines as a preservative years ago.
Studies in the Carribean showed that children who ate cold water fish (tend to have high levels of mercury) could have learning disabilities, but not necessarily more autism, from mercury poisoning. The levels in the old vaccines were less than if an adult ate a few cans of tuna.
Autism is a very sad thing, but blaming vaccines that have prevented millions of deaths of children, and millions of cases of crippling polio and meningitis…well that is scary. If it were not for the vaccines, many children every year would die or be blind or deaf from HIB menningitis or crippled or dead from polio, or have birth defects from rubella.
Everyone has their opinion, but of you go to Africa and see children dying from preventable diseases…well, you would be a proponent of our vaccination program.
So get informed and go get the book “What every parent should know about vaccines” by Paul Offit it tells parents the facts about vaccines and I recommend it for EVERY PARENT!
This is such a scary topic for parents of small children.
The internet has so much information that it is possible to have too much information.
After reading and getting more scared, I decided that vaccines had helped more children than could be imagined.My heart goes out to the families seeing their child’s light turn in instead of out. I cannot imagine their lives.
Dragonsrest wrote:This is such a scary topic for parents of small children.
The internet has so much information that it is possible to have too much information.
After reading and getting more scared, I decided that vaccines had helped more children than could be imagined.My heart goes out to the families seeing their child’s light turn in instead of out. I cannot imagine their lives.
There are many excellent books on the market that discuss pros and cons of vaccines. The BEST one is “What Every Parent Should know About Vaccines” by Paul Offit. I send or give this book to every person that I know who is expecting a baby. Including my sister. Another great source of info are any books that have the American Academy of Pediatrics approval on the cover.
Believe me, the AAP and the CDC are working every day to make sure that our vaccines and other drugs are safe. The internet is full of opinions, as a parent, you want facts! So make sure what you are reading is backed up by the AAP and CDC. Those two groups were established to protect the welfare of the people.
The American Academy of Pediatrics actually recommended the removal of Thimerisol from vaccines before the CDC recommended it.
The AAP is all about the welfare of children, without kids we wouldn’t have pediatricians. They are looking out for our children and they can be trusted!
Well it’s nice to know that they’ve begun to determine the genes involved in the disease.
As for the vaccines thing they’ve done more good then bad, I say. Just my humble opinion.
keschete wrote:eaglefeather831 wrote:This kind of news made me breathe a sigh of relief because not only is the research getting much farther (further?) in coming up with a cure, and it might show that vaccines aren’t the cause (which always made me feel like a bad mom allowing Chloe to get vaccinated). It is one of my fears as a new mommy that Chloe might get Autism.
Don’t stress..vaccines are safe. I have practiced pediatrics for over 11 years and I have never seen an autistic patient that had a legitimate claim that vaccines caused the problem. Most children develop symptoms of autism at around 18 to 24 months. This is the age when they receive the MMR vaccine.
But, how does that explain that more male children are affected by autistic syndromes than females? Also, why would it only be the 2nd MMR that causes the problem? Kids get their first MMR at 1 year.
The CDC had vaccine companies remove Thimerisol (mercury) from vaccines as a preservative years ago.
Studies in the Carribean showed that children who ate cold water fish (tend to have high levels of mercury) could have learning disabilities, but not necessarily more autism, from mercury poisoning. The levels in the old vaccines were less than if an adult ate a few cans of tuna.
Autism is a very sad thing, but blaming vaccines that have prevented millions of deaths of children, and millions of cases of crippling polio and meningitis…well that is scary. If it were not for the vaccines, many children every year would die or be blind or deaf from HIB menningitis or crippled or dead from polio, or have birth defects from rubella.
Everyone has their opinion, but of you go to Africa and see children dying from preventable diseases…well, you would be a proponent of our vaccination program.
So get informed and go get the book “What every parent should know about vaccines” by Paul Offit it tells parents the facts about vaccines and I recommend it for EVERY PARENT!
http://www.amazon.com/Vaccines-What-Every-Parent-Should/dp/0028638611
Wow! I thought that Mercury was still in vaccines, but I guess that’s where I made my boo-boo when I trusted some random websites! What you have to say made me feel so much better because I always had that little fear, and it intensified when Chloe had to have her 2 month shots. She gets her 4 month shots on tuesday, and my heart will still break when she cries, but I will feel a lot better about the contents of the vaccines.
Always be super critical of internet sources unless they’re from a well known, peer reviewed source (a scientific journal read by other scientists, say).
I can’t tell you the number of times clients came into the vet clinic to hand me an internet article, or tell me about something they read online that made me fight that eyeroll reflex until I could get out of the exam room to tell my coworkers “Hey guys, listen to this one!”
Like the dog flu epidemic that wasn’t.
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