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March 28, 2008 at 10:21 pm #684325
A while ago I posted that I have had this tan griff for years, busted up in a shoe box. I glued him back together, and then tried using an air drying clay to fill in the missing parts. It’s gritty tho, so it didn’t do what I wanted. Thats wwhere he has sat for a long time. I want to get around to fixing him, but I want to make sure I’m not missing something critical. So, here are the steps I think I need to do, what do you think?
1. Clean up gritty clay areas
2. Get out apoxie sculpt
3. Resculpt areas, 1 at a time.Question, how do I work with this stuff? How do I keep it from sticking to my fingers or tools? Do I sculpt my details while it is ‘wet’ or do I wait until it’s dry?
after the apoxie sculpt dries, do I need to sand it, or can I proceed to painting? Does it need a primer? I’m planning on putting masking fluid over the griff’s chain and gems to keep them clean, eyes also ofcourse. Then I plan on either airbrushing or pasteling him. I haven’t decided if I want to keep him similar colors or maybe go with white and gold. He will NEVER be for sale, so I’m not worried about copyright stuff, I just want him to be whole again.
Thanks!!
March 28, 2008 at 10:21 pm #494864March 28, 2008 at 10:35 pm #684326asinnamon wrote:A while ago I posted that I have had this tan griff for years, busted up in a shoe box. I glued him back together, and then tried using an air drying clay to fill in the missing parts. It’s gritty tho, so it didn’t do what I wanted. Thats wwhere he has sat for a long time. I want to get around to fixing him, but I want to make sure I’m not missing something critical. So, here are the steps I think I need to do, what do you think?
1. Clean up gritty clay areas
2. Get out apoxie sculpt
3. Resculpt areas, 1 at a time.Question, how do I work with this stuff? How do I keep it from sticking to my fingers or tools? Do I sculpt my details while it is ‘wet’ or do I wait until it’s dry?
When working with AS, you need to mix it, then let it rest for about an hour, this will help keep it from being so sticky, another thing that helps is cold, if you mix it, then stick it in the fridge for 40 minutes then it won’t be so sticky, and you can start a bit earlier. Details need to go in while it is still soft, but I usually wait until it is within an hour of fully setting up. How I know when I can resculpt is I fill in everything, sculpt the small areas a bit, then do something else for awhile, but keeping a piece of the mixed stuff with me so I can mash it around now and then, when it starts getting stiff but still mushable, I go back and put in my details. Another way to keep it from sticking if it is still tacky when you go to start is to dampen your hands and tools with a little water, not much, just enough to make you non-stick.
asinnamon wrote:after the apoxie sculpt dries, do I need to sand it, or can I proceed to painting? Does it need a primer?
Sanding is not needed unless it set up with a surface you didn’t want, (I.E. a fingerprint or something) Yes, you can go directly to painting, no primer needed. I love this stuff, once I learned to work with it I honestly can say I wouldn’t want to use anything else.
asinnamon wrote:I’m planning on putting masking fluid over the griff’s chain and gems to keep them clean, eyes also ofcourse. Then I plan on either airbrushing or pasteling him. I haven’t decided if I want to keep him similar colors or maybe go with white and gold. He will NEVER be for sale, so I’m not worried about copyright stuff, I just want him to be whole again.
Thanks!!
Sounds like you are on the right track, let me know if you need any help.
Kyrin
March 29, 2008 at 12:50 pm #684327Thanks Kyrin! I was hoping you would reply, being the repair guru that you are! How long before the AS is too set up? I thought it only stayed workable for an hour? I hope this stuff has a shelf life too, I have some I got a while ago….
March 29, 2008 at 2:12 pm #684328asinnamon wrote:Thanks Kyrin! I was hoping you would reply, being the repair guru that you are! How long before the AS is too set up? I thought it only stayed workable for an hour? I hope this stuff has a shelf life too, I have some I got a while ago….
It takes 4 hours to fully set up, so letting it rest for an hour still gives you about 3 hours of working time.
Kyrin
March 29, 2008 at 2:39 pm #684329dragonessjade has sent the Hawk’s Castle to you Kyrin. Let me know when it arrives, okay? Thanks!
March 29, 2008 at 4:40 pm #684330Don’t forget to take plenty of pictures of the inprocess repairs!
March 31, 2008 at 1:41 am #684331emerald212 wrote:dragonessjade has sent the Hawk’s Castle to you Kyrin. Let me know when it arrives, okay? Thanks!
Will do!
Kyrin
March 31, 2008 at 3:21 am #684332To fix a griffin, you sneak up on him while he is sleeping, lift his tail carefully, take your gelding knife and…
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Whoops. Wrong griffin. You meant a griffin *statue*.
(Pardon my dark humor. I was thinking that since I saw the title of this post)
March 31, 2008 at 3:23 am #684333dark_zorse wrote:To fix a griffin, you sneak up on him while he is sleeping, lift his tail carefully, take your gelding knife and…
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Whoops. Wrong griffin. You meant a griffin *statue*.
(Pardon my dark humor. I was thinking that since I saw the title of this post)
March 31, 2008 at 4:11 am #684334OMG DZ! π I just about fell out of my chair on that one! π π π
March 31, 2008 at 4:58 pm #684335Hah!! All the male griffins I’ve met have needed fixing…
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March 31, 2008 at 5:22 pm #684337Jennifer wrote:Hah!! All the male griffins I’ve met have needed fixing…
Hmmm…. Yes. Ego does tend to be a problem with griffins.
March 31, 2008 at 5:30 pm #684338dark_zorse wrote:To fix a griffin, you sneak up on him while he is sleeping, lift his tail carefully, take your gelding knife and…
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Whoops. Wrong griffin. You meant a griffin *statue*.
(Pardon my dark humor. I was thinking that since I saw the title of this post)
Thank you! That made my morning. 8)
Jennifer wrote:Hah!! All the male griffins I’ve met have needed fixing…
Indeed!
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