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July 4, 2007 at 3:14 am #491770July 4, 2007 at 3:14 am #594475
opened the box and took him out of the plastic I noticed that he was sticky. Kinda like nail polish that is just about dry but still sticky. Now this guy is supposed to be mint and he has his original box. At first I thought something happened to him and he was touched up but after more looking he looks like his paint was not dry or something before he was put in his baggy. The paint is original, no touch ups. The paint looks to good, factory. The dragon came from Florida to California and took 5 days and was outside on the porch for an hour before we noticed the box. Now it was 100 degrees today so I was wondering if the heat had done anything to the paint/clear coat. He has been inside in an air conditioned house for about and hour and a half and he is not sticky any more! Anyone else have this problem? Oh yah, his hand tag was stuck to him so now I have to get the paper off of the back of him. I have 8 more dragons on the way and if this is what the heat does I want to get them inside as soon as possible!!!!!!!
July 4, 2007 at 3:30 am #594476It’s the humidity….FL is pretty humid….and I know it’s very humid here….and it had to come through this way on the way there….
mostly the heat doesn’t bother them….but the humidity is torture….
it’s flooding in the D/FW area…..and that’s a main hub for all packages to go through….
100% humidity can make things sticky….hehe
July 4, 2007 at 1:10 pm #594477Did having the paint sticky leave fingerprints on the finish or anything?
July 4, 2007 at 1:15 pm #594478I wonder if it was just dirty and the humidity made it sticky? Maybe it was around hairspray in it’s former home? Now that it’s dry, how does it look?
July 4, 2007 at 3:08 pm #594479I had the same problem with my black pegasus. And I only live an hour north of the studio. When I received her the paper she was wrapped in stuck to her in various places. She cleaned up fine but I was really nervous that some of the paint would come up with her.
July 4, 2007 at 3:34 pm #594480RiDuvessa wrote:I had the same problem with my black pegasus. And I only live an hour north of the studio. When I received her the paper she was wrapped in stuck to her in various places. She cleaned up fine but I was really nervous that some of the paint would come up with her.
Actually several other forum members have mentioned this same problem with their black pegasus pieces and speculate that they might have needed a little more drying time before wrapping.
July 4, 2007 at 3:46 pm #594481The paper sticking to the unicorns/pegasus was a different issue. This just sounds like humidity and temperature change. If he went from high humidity and high heat to your air conditioned house/apartment with lower humidity and lower temperature it could cause him to feel that way- pieces from the factory are always throughly dried!
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My art: featherdust.comJuly 4, 2007 at 7:00 pm #594482Most acrylic paints will become soft at high temperatures. Also, most acrylic paints will react unfavourably to being in a damp climate. So the stickiness could have been due to the heat, or it could have been because moist air was trapped when it was wrapped in the plastic bag. I think the latter idea is not as likely as the former.
There are clear acrylic varnish coats that can withstand temperatures up to 350° F that would protect less resilient underlying paint, but I don’t think these are used on Windstone statues.
The best thing to do, if your package came from a super-heated UPS truck or was left outside in the sunshine, is to open the box indoors and allow the statue to cool off before opening its plastic bag, that way you avoid the risk of damaging the surface either with chemicals from your skin, by leaving fingerprints, or simply by having dust become trapped on the tacky surface. I am talking temperatures in excess of 100° F, here, but it can very easily get that high in an enclosed truck even on a seemingly cool day. As a side note, constant really high temperatures (such as in a storage bunker that does not have climate control) may cause the acrylic paint to deteriorate over time.
This also ties in with the Unicorns, and others (the ones we had the most trouble with were the old Griffins) that are not wrapped in plastic and arrive with the tissue paper sticking at a few points as evidence that the package had been subjected to high temperature. Usually the tissue paper can be peeled off with the paper becoming damaged rather than the statue, but there will probably be some fibres still stuck to the paint. I found that these fibres come loose with careful and brief application of water, but the surface at that point will obviously have been compromised.
July 5, 2007 at 12:01 am #594483The Castle [Dave wrote:“]Most acrylic paints will become soft at high temperatures. Also, most acrylic paints will react unfavourably to being in a damp climate. So the stickiness could have been due to the heat, or it could have been because moist air was trapped when it was wrapped in the plastic bag. I think the latter idea is not as likely as the former.
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject, buy why would heat alone make the acrylic paint sticky? Can’t you paint something in acrylic and then dry it in the oven where it reaches temperatures in excess of 100 degrees? As well, I’ve put my partially painted PYOs in front of my fireplace or electric heater a few times to dry them after giving them a quick bath and they never felt sticky. How hot does it have to get to start making it feel sticky?
July 5, 2007 at 1:49 pm #594484Lokie wrote:The Castle [Dave wrote:“]Most acrylic paints will become soft at high temperatures. Also, most acrylic paints will react unfavourably to being in a damp climate. So the stickiness could have been due to the heat, or it could have been because moist air was trapped when it was wrapped in the plastic bag. I think the latter idea is not as likely as the former.
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject, buy why would heat alone make the acrylic paint sticky? Can’t you paint something in acrylic and then dry it in the oven where it reaches temperatures in excess of 100 degrees? As well, I’ve put my partially painted PYOs in front of my fireplace or electric heater a few times to dry them after giving them a quick bath and they never felt sticky. How hot does it have to get to start making it feel sticky?
That was dry heat. Moisture (and humidity) can effect any paint. 🙂
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My art: featherdust.comJuly 5, 2007 at 3:09 pm #594485Nambroth wrote:Lokie wrote:The Castle [Dave wrote:“]Most acrylic paints will become soft at high temperatures. Also, most acrylic paints will react unfavourably to being in a damp climate. So the stickiness could have been due to the heat, or it could have been because moist air was trapped when it was wrapped in the plastic bag. I think the latter idea is not as likely as the former.
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject, buy why would heat alone make the acrylic paint sticky? Can’t you paint something in acrylic and then dry it in the oven where it reaches temperatures in excess of 100 degrees? As well, I’ve put my partially painted PYOs in front of my fireplace or electric heater a few times to dry them after giving them a quick bath and they never felt sticky. How hot does it have to get to start making it feel sticky?
That was dry heat. Moisture (and humidity) can effect any paint. 🙂
Thank you. That is what I thought, but was a little confused by his first paragraph. Just wanted to make sure my pieces could still sunbath by the heater occasionally 🙂
July 5, 2007 at 5:07 pm #594486Lokie wrote:… why would heat alone make the acrylic paint sticky? Can’t you paint something in acrylic and then dry it in the oven where it reaches temperatures in excess of 100 degrees? As well, I’ve put my partially painted PYOs in front of my fireplace or electric heater a few times to dry them after giving them a quick bath and they never felt sticky. How hot does it have to get to start making it feel sticky?
With a freshly painted sculpture, you are using the heat to drive out moisture from the paint in order to set the paint. But acrylic paint is a form of plastic, and the hotter it gets, the softer it gets. I don’t know at what temperature a Windstone sculpture would become “sticky” to the touch, though. I guess I ought to do some experimenting on this…
July 6, 2007 at 6:22 am #594487asinnamon wrote:I wonder if it was just dirty and the humidity made it sticky? Maybe it was around hairspray in it’s former home? Now that it’s dry, how does it look?
Nope no hairspray. This guy came from a dealer who doesn’t have a shop and is trying to sell the stock she has. As far as I know this piece was only opened for inspection. On his back side only if you look very closly in the right light you can see the indintations from the plastic baggy. When I brought him in he wasn’t tacky enough for my fingerprints to stick but being in the humid heat long enough in his original box and baggy was enough to leave the impressions. Good thing is it is not on his display side! He is still beeeaaauuutiiiful! The hand tag did stick to the back a bit where he was laying in his box so I goota get those little paper piece off. Just a heads up, I’m gonna be posting a listing of the stock that this lady in Florida has left. Just trying to be nice. I will list in the flea market.
July 6, 2007 at 5:04 pm #594488You should probably mention this in the flea market post as well. Just as a warning to others.
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