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    SPark
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      #509071
      SPark
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        I’ve been eying this pegasus for a while now, and I really rather like it. But it’s so very much less than any other resin horses I’ve seen, that I’m just wondering what’s wrong with it. Is it just that this is a mass-produced horse rather than a small edition, or is there something else up here?

        #509072
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          I’m not an expert, but that looks like a mass produced item from Asia. Not a “real” resin horse that collectors buy.

          #509073

          Yeah that is not a real “resin”. Its a cheap china knockoff of a good peg. It would be good to practice on maybe…but the casting looks rough at best.

          #509074
          littleironhorse
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            SPark wrote:

            I’ve been eying this pegasus for a while now, and I really rather like it. But it’s so very much less than any other resin horses I’ve seen, that I’m just wondering what’s wrong with it. Is it just that this is a mass-produced horse rather than a small edition, or is there something else up here?

            SPark, is your heart set on a fantasy equine. Because if you’re just looking for a practice piece, the least expensive I’ve found is the PYO Pony from the Trail of Painted Ponies.

            #509075
            SPark
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              It’s not so much that I really want a fantasy piece, that I really love dynamic, highly active poses. And honestly most resins I see just stand there, or walk, or they’re trying to be dynamic but look off balance, or awkward. It’s a very personal thing with me, as I know a lot of the poses I find awkward others totally love. But I look at that pony, and it’s just… plodding along, you know? It looks like they wanted to make it look like it was runing, but didn’t quite dare to, the mane is sorta, kinda streaming, but not really, and the feet aren’t posed like it’s really running, but like they wanted to, but didn’t go far enough. Like…

              Okay, this horse is running, and look at how the mane and tail are all over the place! Then you look at the painted pony and the legs are in that same position, but not nearly far out enough! It’s just not right. And the tail is so… lumpy. And the mane just seems to lack detail.

              The pegasus is so active! And the wings just add to that, I think. Though I don’t love the clouds at all, I’d probably minimize them when painting it… And though it’s hard to tell from just one photo, it seems to have plenty of detail, even if the cast isn’t perfect. Not perfect can be cleaned up with a file, usually. But detail that isn’t there to begin with can’t be added.

              And of course when I find a really good, dynamic resin that I like, it’s $300 at least… I can’t scrape up the $30 for that thing right now, and even when finances are better, I’ll never be able to get enough to get a resin I actually like (Well, except Arlla’s! Draft horses are my exception to the active thing. They look awesome just standing there. A running draft horse would be too much, somehow.)

              #509076
              littleironhorse
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                Well, although I will agree with you about the mane and tail, I wouldn’t say that about the painted pony’s pose. The horse you pictured running is really at a galop when the painted pony is closer to a collected canter, like this dressage horse here.

                So while it is, somewhat less active, it still is very accurate in my opinion.

                But in any case, of course if he doesn’t catch your eye you shouldn’t buy him because you will end up not wanting to paint him… And $30.00, when you have it, is still a very acceptable price. 😉

                #509077
                SPark
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                  Yeah, I probably will get the pegasus, eventually. I probably shouldn’t for a bit though, between repair stuff and minifigs, and the Christmas PYOs I’m doing I have tons of painting to do already.

                  Thanks for the input though!

                  #509078
                  Arlla
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                    Spark – “resins” in the model horse world, as far as I understand it, refers to a couple of things: 1, the really expensive ones, are the “artist resins” which are like my horse Alexander – they are horses sculpted by artists that usually strive for realism; they are sculpted to be of a certain size (traditional scale, classic scale, minis) and they are generally fairly small editions – usually no more than a couple hundred, and often around 50 or so. Then there are resins produced by the major model horse companies like Breyer. There are a few other companies that do nice resins…
                    What you have there is pretty much a run of the mill (though very beautiful) unicorn statue. It’s very mass produced and not made by anyone (as far as I know) connected to the model horse world. They’re probably cast in China. And as far as I know, he certainly isn’t meant to be painted on. I’ve had my eye on that one too, though, not to paint but just to have – there’s a store near me that sells them, and I think they are very elegant looking.

                    Hope my poor attempt to answer your question helped!

                    "He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
                    -J R R Tolkien

                    #509079
                    SPark
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                      Resin = a material. I know it’s come to mean something else in the model horse world, but resin is what it’s made out of.

                      I’m not looking for something to collect, just something that’s made out of resin, the same stuff as the “resins” you’re thinking of, so I can practice and find if I like working on it or not. I know perfectly well that this hasn’t got a thing to do with the model horse world. I just wanted to know, because I thought the reason “resins” were so expensive was the cost of casting them, how something made of the same material can be so much cheaper, and if anybody knows of something wrong with this other than that it’s obviously mass-produced.

                      #509080
                      Arlla
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                        SPark wrote:

                        Resin = a material. I know it’s come to mean something else in the model horse world, but resin is what it’s made out of.

                        I’m not looking for something to collect, just something that’s made out of resin, the same stuff as the “resins” you’re thinking of, so I can practice and find if I like working on it or not. I know perfectly well that this hasn’t got a thing to do with the model horse world. I just wanted to know, because I thought the reason “resins” were so expensive was the cost of casting them, how something made of the same material can be so much cheaper, and if anybody knows of something wrong with this other than that it’s obviously mass-produced.

                        Ah! Sorry, I misunderstood. No, I think resin is actually a fairly cheap material – it’s pretty much plastic. It’s used to cast a lot of stuff…I think this would be fine to practice on. You can also check ebay for breyer “bodies” – old horses that have been scratched or banged up that people are selling as customizing bait. They can go for pretty cheap sometimes.

                        "He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
                        -J R R Tolkien

                        #509081
                        SPark
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                          Ah! That’s good to know. It’s hard to find stuff on ebay if you don’t know the terms. Just searching for “horse” is impossible, and so many people don’t put “unpainted” in the description, even if it is!

                          #509082
                          Arlla
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                            SPark wrote:

                            Ah! That’s good to know. It’s hard to find stuff on ebay if you don’t know the terms. Just searching for “horse” is impossible, and so many people don’t put “unpainted” in the description, even if it is!

                            I know your looking to practice for painting a possibly expensive resin someday – the breyer bodies should serve, I think. The plastic they cast the breyers in isn’t QUITE the same as hollow resins – not as dense, I think – but otherwise it would be pretty much the same experience. You would just have to prep the model – you can strip whatever paint is on it by soaking it in a bucket of bleach for a week or two (works really well) and then sand it to give your paints or pasetls a surface to stick on. Most nice unpainted resins come preped for you, but there are some you still have to sand down, so it would give you practice for that as well. ^_^

                            "He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom."
                            -J R R Tolkien

                            #509083
                            SPark
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                              Well, but I don’t want to spend all the energy and time that goes into painting up a practice whatever and then just throw it away, you know? I want to find something I actually like to begin with, just that’s not so expensive that it’s intimidating. And as I said above, most horses that I see I just don’t care for very much.

                              #509084
                              Lokie
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                                If you like the pegasus, buy it.

                                As Arlla mentioned, resin is a relatively cheap material. If people are paying a lot for a resin horse, it is for other reasons besides the material it is cast in.

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